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Title: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on January 22, 2011, 02:09:11 am
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2960h8o.png)
And it's supposed to be my face!!!!

(I attached it for when the Tinypic image expires)
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: Arik_the_Red on January 22, 2011, 02:29:58 am
YA SCARED ME!
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on January 22, 2011, 02:33:45 am
yes, I really hope I can fix this to make it look better because this is a disgrace to my face...
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on January 22, 2011, 09:24:00 pm
Ok, i'd say it looks Human now. I made the lips smaller and used a texture instead of trying to color the polys, and I reshaped the eyes and moved them closer together.  I also added Eyebrows, nostrils, and ears.  I still have some editing to do, some of those polys around the nose make it look like I have wrinkles.

(I don't really have a scar by the way, that's just an In Character thing)
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: Gyperboloid on January 23, 2011, 03:19:03 am
In a flat view ( with the edges  ;D ), I think it would be better to see it :)
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: davdud101 on January 23, 2011, 04:10:43 pm
Actually not terrible, if you ask me. I do wanna see it in flat-view though. Why is that line thingy there on the side of your face anyway?
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on January 23, 2011, 09:45:56 pm
That "line thingy" is supposed to be a scar. No I don't have it in real life, it's just part of the story of my character. This character goes with my Pirate project so yeah, there's some scars and even a tattoo on there.  This character is like a fantasy version of me (admit it, a lot of you have fantasies). She's called "The Shadow Rider".

Anyway, as far as the model goes, I added the hair most obviously, the facial features, and I took out the ear texture because it just looked weird. I still couldn't get rid of the wrinkles unfortunately. I got rid of some, but they're still there and noticable.
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: dwsel on January 24, 2011, 05:56:56 pm
I'm afraid it may be needed to rebuild some parts of the face to fix wrinkles in unwanted places and to add wrinkles in places you want it. Here are some tutorials that helped me a lot:
http://www.subdivisionmodeling.com/forums/showthread.php?t=907
http://www.subdivisionmodeling.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8000
http://www.subdivisionmodeling.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8911
http://www.digitaltutors.com/forum/showthread.php?9365-human-face-topology
Maybe subdivisionmodeling.com forum is not that populated and suffering from spammers (so carefull), but I greatly recommend to dig into these threads.
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on January 30, 2011, 02:48:53 am
ok, thanks. Only, what I'm doing isn't really edge-looping, i'm sure of it. Even with tutorials I couldn't figure it out.  I use the "Add edge, fill holes, extrude edges, move points" method. so yeah, I don't even do Edge-looping, let alone correctly, hehe.

Anyway, I got out enough wrinkles to be tolerable, and I added my fluffy hat with Transmap feathers!
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: Mills on February 07, 2011, 11:18:52 pm
Hi Cori. Great model, but I think I see a specular highlight forming on the transparent part on the yellow feather there. If you apply your transparent texture as the specular texture too, this won't happen.
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on February 10, 2011, 01:32:00 am
Thanks Mills! I was wondering how to fix that!

Anyway, here's the rest of my body. I'll admit some things look a bit... bigger than they actually are, and I look a bit chunky too.. eew... Well, it's all fixable.

Edit: The second pic is the whole finished body!
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: Water Music on February 18, 2011, 02:19:16 am
The model isn't bad, actually.  The reason that you are getting a wrinkly look is that you have a few too many vertices under the eyes for the amount of Y-axis curvature.  Try getting rid of a couple of parallel rows that are defining the cheeks and the effect should be a little smoother, without any loss of actual detail.

You can also make the "wrinkles" work to your advantage by having the horizontal edges follow the musculature of the face.  Specifically, have an edge loop that goes from the top of the sellion following the curve underneath the eye socket, another from the top of the nostril diagnally-down, to a point just outside the corner of the mouth, with a third in-between to puff the area out a tiny bit.

I hope this helps :)
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on March 15, 2011, 08:26:03 pm
Thanks so much Water Music! I deleted some of the unneeded edges and it smoothed out perfectly!
Anyway, here's the preview of my walk cycle. I hope I can get this done in time.  I took a little "break" from it for a while, so that's why i haven't posted.  I'm still touching up a few things and if you noticed, my shoulders look like a football player.... I messed around with the object's shoulders since I noticed I modeled it on my actual shoulders which were flexed in that position.  I made them smaller and it looks a bit better now.
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: Water Music on March 18, 2011, 01:01:47 am
Glad to be of service.

Shoulders can be tricky, simply because of the range of motion they need.  I haven't settled on a shoulder build that I'm totally happy with, so I won't give you any advice on that score.

And remember:  the real money's in privateering :).
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: ADSohr on March 18, 2011, 01:48:00 am
This might help you out:  http://www.blendercookie.com/2010/03/31/topology-review-shoulder/
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on March 18, 2011, 11:41:55 pm
lol! privateering, nice.  Anyway, here's my walk cycle that took me 5 times of re-rendering to finally get it "as good as it's gonna get" I actually ended up moving the arms to my sides instead of having it outstretched the way it was. it was nearly impossible to get the arms to move right when they were in that position.
http://tinypic.com/r/110zk7c/7
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: Arik_the_Red on March 19, 2011, 02:44:59 am
Looks good.

Have you looked at johnar's old walk cycle?



He has an extra factor which has an extra up and down bounce to it. It means having two extra bones to start from the root, that bounce up and down sort of like scissors. It creates that extra illusion of walking motion that makes the entire figure look completely animate, so that the body and head don't appear static and unmoving.

I did some work with it awhile back, and, while I didn't get the thing finished due to a loss of work (computer death)... I did get some decent result with a goblin I was toying with...
 

My guy's showing a number of flaws that I didn't get to work out due to the file loss: arms remained inanimate, he leans back and sways a bit, his left foot's inner toe didn't get weighted with the rest of the foot, and there is a little skipping limp... because I didn't polish it off... 
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on March 21, 2011, 08:07:06 pm
Hmm, I saw the video, and that does look like a good ide, Ii might think about it. Of course my figure already has too many bones to count, lol. Anyway, here's my morph target and hair movement test
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: Water Music on March 22, 2011, 03:30:04 am
Arik has the right of it.  In longsword, cavalry, or 3D animation if you stop moving you're dead.  Everything should always be in motion, even if just slightly, or it looks off.  Your facial expressions are quite good, though.

In addition to Arik's comments I'll add that ne'er-do-wells back in the day would buckle their swords loosely about their waist; making them flop about dramatically to bring attention to the fact that they were packing, and therefore were not to be trifled with (hence the term swashbuckler).  If you've never walked around with a sword on your belt you can believe me when I say they usually move quite a bit and have a definite impact on your stride.  You will bounce up and down a little, but not as much as when you don't have a sword.  To compensate for this you will either swing your hips and shoulders more (causing your sword to sway) or you'll keep your left shoulder and hip a little more forward and point your right foot a little more to the outside to keep an even stride.  Sorry if that's TMI.
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on March 22, 2011, 07:12:21 pm
Yeah, for the sword part, I noticed that. I actually have walked with a sword (I do colonial reenactments, the model is actually based on my cosume) It's just I have it on the same bone as my hips which I guess I could make movable. It's not too late.  I actually just started the first part of my official clip for the video project which I had to leave my computer on overnight to finish, hehe. 
I still haven't put it in that codec yet that it needs to be in, if I can ask, What does it do? and also, my colors when I render seem to be awfully diminished, like I turned it into a .gif or something.  Is there a setting I can change it to so I can fix that? I use Microsoft Video 1 which might be the problem, but most of the others I try I get some error message and it won't work.  I might end up re-rendering this part anyway because my camera seemed a bit off because of the resolution size I set it to for the requirements.
http://tinypic.com/r/ju6zwk/7
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: Water Music on March 24, 2011, 01:03:15 am
Ah, excellent.  Renaissance for me.

In the very rare instances where I've rendered from Anim8or I've just saved each frame as a bitmap and then reconstructed in a video program, like movie maker.  The real question is if you render a still from Anim8or do you get your diminished colour, or do you only get that in your video?  That should tell you where the issue is.
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on March 24, 2011, 08:56:02 pm
Just video. but I've never tried the other video selections. Would it do any good to render "full frames uncompressed" and deal with the humongous file size it supposedly gives?
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on March 26, 2011, 06:18:31 pm
Here's my first test render for the 10-second portion of my part in the video.
http://tinypic.com/r/2cqloch/7
Any suggestions to make it better? I already made my character turn around slower and more realistically since I rendered this.  Any other suggestions are welcome before I render the final clip for the video with its massive time rendering huge resolution in antialiased.  By the way, does the codec increase or decrease file size at all?
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: daniel99 on March 26, 2011, 09:05:36 pm
It is not the horrid, looks ok.
It's a good try, man. And it is funny.
So, i like it.
rock on
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: Raxx on March 27, 2011, 04:06:26 am
Not bad CoriDavis, I like what you've got so far.

The only real crit I have at the moment is the camera's (lack of) fluidity, especially when it's making its way under the main boom. Try to smooth the transitions a little bit, and in the end I think some subtle camera shaking/wobbling would be more effective when it freezes on your face looking at the camera. Maybe alternatively, have the camera swaying up and down with the boat swaying in the waves at that last segment.

If it's not too hard, you could also try giving the flag a less linear rippling effect, and more diagonal due to the weight of the end of the flag pulling it downward (like in this vid:
).

Your "avatar" has a lot of character to her, I especially like it when she faces the camera, so good job!
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: Water Music on March 27, 2011, 06:59:07 am
To answer your last question Cori, a codec is the means by which a video is compressed and then reassembled for playback.  When you apply one the memory it takes to store your video will be lessened, but the quality of your video will also be diminished in the process.  They're pretty good these days, so you should see a significant reduction in your video size before the quality lowers in too noticeable a fashion.
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on March 27, 2011, 08:45:22 pm
Ok, I put in as much of that as I could.  I deleted some unneeded keys in the camera movement and straightened out the path more.  Also made the flag look better.
http://tinypic.com/r/2w3t7v6/7
Anything else before I make the final render that's going to take all night?
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: Water Music on March 30, 2011, 12:50:06 am
Looks good.  You've probably rendered already, but you may want to experiment with your lighting a bit to give it more drama.  The only real criticism I have is that on your flag the sword handles are backwards...but I'm probably the only person who'd notice...
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: TheBlackHole on March 30, 2011, 02:38:26 am
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2960h8o.png)
And it's supposed to be my face!!!!

(I attached it for when the Tinypic image expires)
(http://www.imglols.com/wp-content/main/2010_10/lets-see-your-best-reaction-face.jpg)
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on March 30, 2011, 07:22:16 pm
Water music: No I haven't rendered actually. and Aww darn it (about the swords)

TheBlackHole: XD XD XD LOLOLOL!!!!!!

Edit: I tried a light... but it didn't give much of an effect. even an infinite light just made everything darker and unrealistic. not like the sun which I hoped for.  I think it's best to reneder my final clip without any lights so it will look more like a sunny day on the open sea. (then I have to try out that codec...)
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on April 02, 2011, 09:02:02 pm
One other thing I need to confirm, Should I render with Microsoft Video 1 (my usual) Or should I render "Full Frames Uncompressed"? because it said something about little compression on the Topic
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: Raxx on April 03, 2011, 09:58:01 pm
Render Full Frames Uncompressed (or render to BMPs), then follow the directions in the topic
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on April 03, 2011, 10:07:15 pm
Ok! that's what I needed to know, thanks
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on April 15, 2011, 10:52:08 pm
here's my 2-second clip test http://tinypic.com/r/10e0dis/7
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: davdud101 on April 22, 2011, 06:32:14 am
WOW. WOOOW. Very nice, Cori! I gotta see more of your work.
Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: CoriDavis on April 24, 2011, 11:47:49 pm
Well, here's my Youtube channel you can subscribe to
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Title: Re: The most horrid, disgusting thing in the existance of planet earth
Post by: flipper on April 25, 2011, 09:08:56 pm
Love the feathers!!!!!