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Title: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Steve on August 10, 2018, 05:53:06 pm
My disk crashed this week. I have a back-up service for my data. Unfortunately when I added a new disk last April it suspended backing up the Anim8or source files.   :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Sooooo, now I get to rewrite everything from mid April. This includes multi threaded rendering and the new bone editing code.

Don't worry, I'll rewrite it all. It was a lot of fun the first time, and it should be even more fun the second!
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: selden on August 10, 2018, 08:00:16 pm
Ouch!

You have my sympathy.

I'm sure the new code will be better than the original, since now you have some experience in writing it!
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Gyperboloid on August 10, 2018, 11:10:44 pm
Steve ?!! /Still, when using this and any other computer program, I still offer the same advice: "Save Early, Save Often!" And don't always save to the same file. Keep a recent backup handy./  :P
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Steve on August 10, 2018, 11:37:58 pm
Good advice!

I thought I was. I use Carbonite which backs up files continuously. I had a disk crash 3 or 4 years ago and Carbonite had everything save and easy to reload.

Unfortunately when I changed the configuration of my computer last April it got confused and started backing up the wrong disk. Since it keeps everything for several months I got weekly reports of the back-up which looked fine.

Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: neirao on August 11, 2018, 01:59:24 pm
Sad huh Steve ... already happened to me too with some applicatives I was developing(I lost everything), lucky that I always saved a few previous versions always on web driver ... one off backups, another good tip is always PRINT the codes and save them :)

But also like you said it's fun to reprogram some things from scratch, it ends up being easier and cleaner than based on the original codes!

Good luck! :)
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: AlecJames on August 12, 2018, 11:26:44 am
Condolences hope its not a tedious task.  Does this justify an extra trip to Italy? :)
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: RudySchneider on August 12, 2018, 03:20:00 pm
...Does this justify an extra trip to Italy? :)

At least you could console yourself with some gelato...
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Claude on August 12, 2018, 09:06:34 pm
More likely Vancouver for SIGGRAPH  :)
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: nemyax on August 13, 2018, 03:33:22 pm
It's a bloody shame, but good luck on the rewrite, Steve! It's about time Anim8or had a new bone system anyway =)
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: chuft-captain on August 26, 2018, 03:47:46 pm
I can sympathize Steve as this has happened to me in the past.
On the positive side, I find I usually write better and more elegant code on the second attempt!
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Steve on August 26, 2018, 05:02:03 pm
Yes, the second time the code is better organized and easier to write. I've finished a lot of small things and am close to finishing the multi-threaded rendering code. There's still a lot to do though. Good think I like to write code (http://www.anim8or.com/em/johnar/smile.gif)
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: chuft-captain on August 28, 2018, 05:02:54 am
BTW Steve,

Sent you a PM / Email about an issue we discussed a few months ago. (No panic obviously  8) )
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: captaindrewi on August 31, 2018, 04:48:27 pm
Just heard the news....amazed you are so calm about it.
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Steve on August 31, 2018, 08:12:48 pm
It could be worse - at least I don't have a boss bugging me to work harder :)  It's going a bit faster the second time. I have the multi-thread code finished and bunch of small things, and I'm working on the new bone editing now.
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Blick Fang on October 11, 2018, 03:20:42 pm


At least you could console yourself with some gelato...


I think a little Limoncello may be in order :-)
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Kyle on October 12, 2018, 12:57:52 am
Work harder steve, or I'm reducing your pay by half.
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Steve on October 12, 2018, 01:23:23 pm
Kyle:  :-[

I'm in Italy now for a while but managing to make some progress in rewriting everything. (And maning some progress in sampling limoncello)

The hardest part is trying to program on an Italian keyboard. There aren't any curly braces! You have to press and hold the left ALT key (NOT the alternate ALT key on the right! That's needed for square braces, at signs and pound signs!) type 1 2 3 on the keypad, then release the ALT key to make a {
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: nemyax on October 12, 2018, 03:27:56 pm
Steve
You could be the first programmer in history to actually use C trigraphs! =)
What do you mean by "rewriting everything"?
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Kyle on October 12, 2018, 06:17:29 pm
Is it an issue of not having enough keys? I think you can remap them in software somehow, maybe that would help?
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Steve on October 13, 2018, 11:57:53 am
Rewriting = all the code that was lost when my HD crashed :)
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Steve on November 08, 2018, 11:44:49 am
I've made a lot of progress. I'm in Italy now but will return to Califonia in a week and should have an update not too long after.
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: chuft-captain on November 12, 2018, 01:41:04 pm
I've made a lot of progress. I'm in Italy now but will return to Califonia in a week and should have an update not too long after.
Great to hear Steve. Along with your re-writes, I hope you also found a solution for that frustrum issue we discussed.

CC

PS. Looks like they don't have the letter "r" on Italian keyboads either. (Hope you make it back safely to "Califonia" though!) :LOL:
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Steve on November 12, 2018, 02:43:01 pm
I better check uur plane tickets to make sure they're for California!
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: RudySchneider on November 12, 2018, 04:20:02 pm
You may want to consider extending your stay, Steve...

With the GIGANTIC fires in both northern and southern California, the air quality is miserable.  I moved from Boulder Creek (in the Santa Cruz Mountains) to Lincoln (just a bit north and east of Sacramento), and smoke from the Camp fire (over 6700 structures GONE!) made it difficult to even see things a quarter mile away!
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: captaindrewi on January 09, 2019, 02:12:25 pm
@Steve ..Wow :) ,i have been away for a while as i thought the rebuild was going to take a while....So wonderful to see it reappear 8)
and a new edition to explore.
Did Re programming allow any advantages in the redesign? like a free hand lasso tool or sound track addition? i seem to remember this was impossible with former incarnation.Forgive me if that's a dumb question. :o
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Steve on January 09, 2019, 04:04:30 pm
I didn't do any redesign of the features, only the underlying code. Everything lost in the crash should be in to latest post. As for the lasso tool, sound, etc., I still have those (plus a lot of other requests) on my "to do" list :-)
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: ENSONIQ5 on January 10, 2019, 12:16:07 am
A sound engine, either as part of Anim8or or an external utility along the lines of Terranimator, would be very handy.  To be able to apply a sound (sourced online, synthesized, recorded etc.) to an object and have the active camera behave like a stereo microphone would be amazing, especially if doppler shift and volume could be synthesized automatically based on relative velocity and proximity to the camera/mic.  Ideally it would need to include some sound manipulation tools (and/or a full blown soft synth).

I had wild ideas of building something like this when I first found Anim8or, but have lacked the time and the requisite skills to get anything going.

PS: Congrats on completing the re-write :)
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: tazdij on February 02, 2019, 10:35:36 pm
Hey Steve, have you considered using a Private Hosted Repository for all of your code. Just for the sake of backup? Or maybe something like carbonite?
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Steve on February 03, 2019, 03:45:17 pm
This was entirely my fault. I had my computer continuously backed up by Carbonite (great service BTW). But when I cloned my disk last April I accidentially switched the service to back up the clone drive instead of the working copy. So for 4 months I was only backing up old data. When my main disk died I had two geat copies of the old April data :(
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: davdud101 on February 05, 2019, 12:27:01 am
A sound engine, either as part of Anim8or or an external utility along the lines of Terranimator, would be very handy.  To be able to apply a sound (sourced online, synthesized, recorded etc.) to an object and have the active camera behave like a stereo microphone would be amazing, especially if doppler shift and volume could be synthesized automatically based on relative velocity and proximity to the camera/mic.  Ideally it would need to include some sound manipulation tools (and/or a full blown soft synth).

I had wild ideas of building something like this when I first found Anim8or, but have lacked the time and the requisite skills to get anything going.

PS: Congrats on completing the re-write :)


Is that something you'd typically find in an animation package?? Sounds interesting but I question whether Ani8or would find use for that or if you'd be better off using a DAW (Logic, Cakewalk, FL Studio) of some sort instead. Although I suppose that way it *would* be synced directly to your animation.
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Bomchax on June 24, 2019, 07:29:19 am
My Hard Disk crashed just a few hours ago. Honestly, what's more upsetting is losing work in progress...
Title: Re: Arrgh! Hard Disk Crash!
Post by: Hypure on July 02, 2019, 01:24:39 pm
Indeed this is foul news, it's good to hear your taking this so well, amazing! indeed I learned long time ago second time around is better anyway 😂