yea ive modeled a few different ways. usually if i dont have a reference pic i'll box sphere or cyl model cause it gives me sort of a guide. but i had a pretty good ref image for yoda. i did the side view 1st then extruded. then i worked on the nose then lips then the brow. then once i had a decent shape i started fixing my loops. ( i still dont have them right) im getting there though, its still a wip. and i think i just stole this guys topic thing so i made a topic on the wip section.