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Morprok
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posted 02-13-2006 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morprok   Click Here to Email Morprok     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
P_R7 - So it turns out we lost our copy of Shrek so I'm sorry but I can't draw the dragon for you.

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slayer456
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posted 02-13-2006 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slayer456     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, im gonna get started as soon as I can. I am not really sure what I should model right now though. I might do the cave or he dingeon if no one has done that yet. Anyways, just tell me what you want from me.

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Mr.Smeagol
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posted 02-14-2006 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.Smeagol   Click Here to Email Mr.Smeagol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm quoting myself:
quote:
- You asked us to give you a model to do, but we don't know what model's are you best at. (for example - I'm much beter at anorganic that on organic). And we don't know your skills yet, so do what I did - read the script and pick any model you would like to do that you can find in script - you can also suggest new models that you think would suit best for the certain scene - but are not yet in the script
Just ask here can you model the model(s) you picked - just to check they aren't already taken.
I'm doing "dark tower" and I'm in charge of woods. I already made chess and tree.
MP3D took dragon and woof.
Startrekfan is making the castle.
Codfish made the fireplace.
Pr_7 made script, lots of concept art, modeled chess-table, Dragon sign & wall hanging.

This was originaly sent to monkeyboy - but it's actally what I will post to anyone who asks for "orders" on what to do... ...do/model whatever you like doing/modeling for the movie - as long as it's not already made...etc...

Let's say if you'r good with making lowpoly detailed plants and lowpoly nondetailed plants (with or without transmaps) I would welcome your help at that - I thougt maybe we need some ordinary(or maybe not ordinary?) plants in pot for interiors of tower and castle and etc... And some plants like bushes of all kinds and all sizes, for forest

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slayer456
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posted 02-14-2006 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slayer456     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, i am working on some plants. I have a sample here of something I did in 5 secs
Tell me if thats too unrealistic or something. I whipped that up in honestly about 1 minute

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monkeyboy
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posted 02-14-2006 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for monkeyboy   Click Here to Email monkeyboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
I was wondering how to make a robot in armour look like a robot. The robot would kind of be covered by the armour. Any sugestions?

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Morprok
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posted 02-14-2006 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morprok   Click Here to Email Morprok     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by monkeyboy:
Hi,
I was wondering how to make a robot in armour look like a robot. The robot would kind of be covered by the armour. Any sugestions?

You could make the armor just a breast-plate with shoulder protection and then have skinny mechanical limbs much like the droids in Star Wars (for the limbs anyway). Just a suggestion.

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Mr.Smeagol
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posted 02-15-2006 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.Smeagol   Click Here to Email Mr.Smeagol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey slayer... yes that is too unrealistic, we are trying to show the world how good anim8or really is So I suggest we work on our models more than a minute...
Here are some references on how I think that plant should look: Plants references

these are just what I googled to show you what I mean...
Ps. plants for the dark tower should not be some colorful plants but something like ivy let's say or any plant that's suitable for dark tower. For castle everything is ok. For forest make them without pot. Actually - make them without pot for tower also - I'm gonna build the pots out of walls , like wall itself becomes pot... if you get what I mean...

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monkeyboy
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posted 02-15-2006 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for monkeyboy   Click Here to Email monkeyboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
thanks for the sugestion, Morprok , I was also thinking of maybe one glowing strip for the eye, what do you think, anyone?

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monkeyboy
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posted 02-15-2006 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for monkeyboy   Click Here to Email monkeyboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
thanks for the sugestion, Morprok , I was also thinking of maybe one glowing strip for the eye, what do you think, anyone?

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monkeyboy
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posted 02-15-2006 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for monkeyboy   Click Here to Email monkeyboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey,
by the way does anyone know where I can get a copy of the script. thanks.

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monkeyboy
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posted 02-15-2006 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for monkeyboy   Click Here to Email monkeyboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey,
by the way does anyone know where I can get a copy of the script. thanks.

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monkeyboy
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posted 02-15-2006 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for monkeyboy   Click Here to Email monkeyboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi,
sorry I keep posting two things of the same thing. I'm having trouble, but I got it now.
monkey boy-

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Morprok
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posted 02-15-2006 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morprok   Click Here to Email Morprok     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
monkeyboy - I think the red strip for the eyes would be pretty cool, especially woth a cool helmet like one of those stereo-typical dwarf helmets (or like the ones in LOTR) or even somewhat of a motocross helmet. Just another suggestion lol.

Edit: Oh and for the script you can try the Yahoo! group pages for this movie http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnimatorMovieZone/. I'm pretty sure there's a copy there.

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slayer456
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posted 02-15-2006 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slayer456     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, I understand what you mean about the pots. I also understand how the plants wee too unrealistic. And the minute long working thing, that was just a test model to if that style was wrong, which it was. oh and I camt open the link.

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P_R7
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posted 02-15-2006 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for P_R7   Click Here to Email P_R7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry you can't find your Copy of Shrek, Morprok. You could check your library maybe, or I could google something for you.

Yeah, realisticer < plants please. Mr. Smeagol, you're not planning to put plants IN the tower, are you?

I was thinking that weird old kind of helmet, with the visor with slits in it. But that sounds better, although I can't remember exactly what LOTR helmets look like.

Armor pics:
http://medieval.ucdavis.edu/20C/armor.jpeg
http://www.excaliburcutlery.com/art/swords/3helmets.jpg
http://files2.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_on_4_14_2004_19_29_34/armor_side10.jpg1cf90a03-e0eb-44b7-93cd-f483308db2c5Large.jpg
http://www.superkickassmall.com/knives-and-swords/Medieval-Armor.shtml

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Morprok
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posted 02-15-2006 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morprok   Click Here to Email Morprok     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
P_R7 - I don't normally have much time to go to the library or I suppose anywhere for that matter, so it would be better if you tried to find a good reference picture for me to use

And for the LOTR helmet I meant something like this:

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Mr.Smeagol
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posted 02-16-2006 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.Smeagol   Click Here to Email Mr.Smeagol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey slayer... strange - that link openes instantly for me... well here is the link that MUST work (I used my own private webspace)
---> Plants references <---

I like the middle helmet of the second link.

quote:
Yeah, realisticer < plants please. Mr. Smeagol, you're not planning to put plants IN the tower, are you?
Yes I was actually - some dark ivy plants, as I described, I'm trying to make the tower look dark... not dead... lol
...now that you said "IN", it just came to me we could make some low poly ivy on the outside too, like ivy climbing the tower.

I'm progressing with the tower - I already made columns - now I'm in the middle of making ceiling (got to fix some bugs there...)- (I'm a little slow these days because of the school project...)

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slayer456
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posted 02-16-2006 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slayer456     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, that link works thanks. Do you want me to make ivy look like its climbing up something cylandrical or something like that?

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Mr.Smeagol
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posted 02-16-2006 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.Smeagol   Click Here to Email Mr.Smeagol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe some ivy climbing flat wall and some ivy just hanging down, in 180˚ radius (becouse pots will have wall on the one side so ivy need to be hanging on the other 180˚ of the wall - if you dont understand what I just said, I can quickly sketch it) for a one meter lenght let's say...
make leafs not to be too bright or colorfull colour (or you can give me premission to experiment with the material till it fits the dark tower ambient) ps. It would be good to texture the leafs as well... - you can also try using transmaps if you like it that way- you have some leafs/branches pics i gave you.
Soo... experiment with it and see what it comes up - then we can tweak the textures and stuff...

Edit: -try to keep it low poly (but not too much off course)

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P_R7
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posted 02-16-2006 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for P_R7   Click Here to Email P_R7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you should have the ivy growing outside and some tendrils crawling in the window, maybe up the inside of the window. But I think putting them inside would completely change the atmosphere, most plants need a lot of light and water to grow. They might get the water inside, with those huge windows, but not enough light, especially in the center. Besides, it would look like some kind of jungle exhibit at a zoo.

Yeah i like the middle helmet of the second link too. There was another one like it I saw somewhere else, but the link was broken. The LOTR helmet is too open, you would get a look at the robot's brain, let's go with a closed helmet instead.

Where is everyone?

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Morprok
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posted 02-16-2006 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morprok   Click Here to Email Morprok     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I prefer the middle helmet too but with bigger holes for the eyes, not too much but enough for a cool effect.

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startrekfan002
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posted 02-16-2006 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for startrekfan002   Click Here to Email startrekfan002     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A small note to codfish: for your fireplace, to have some better-looking fire, you might wanna use these textures and put them behind eachother in terranim8or:
http://www.mega-tex.nl/fireflametextures/

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Mr.Smeagol
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posted 02-17-2006 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.Smeagol   Click Here to Email Mr.Smeagol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pr_7 - I didn't mean to make a jungle out of it... lol - just a few plants ( ivy - dark coloured so the atmosfere would stay cool). And good idea for a few coming in climbing through a window.

Edit: I figured out that chain was too high poly (8640 faces per chain. 16 chains in scene = 138240 faces just for chains). So I deleted the old one and made a new chain - 1920 faces per chain. 16 chaines in scene = 30720 faces, and thats 4,5 times less Now it stopped lagging in scene mode

I also fixed the bugs from the ceiling so far...
ceiling is still under construction...

Oh yes... almost forgot, here is the pic of how chain looks now:


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Codfish
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posted 02-17-2006 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Codfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
holly crap your internet shuts down for a while and the next thing you know you've got
30 mins of reading to do on anim8or forums!

Thanks for that link STF i'll try it out and see how it looks.

just a cool fact i found out the other day is that all the animation in starwars ep. 3 took over 1year to render!

codfish

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New at this
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posted 02-17-2006 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for New at this   Click Here to Email New at this     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iv'e started on a head if you want it.

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P_R7
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posted 02-17-2006 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for P_R7   Click Here to Email P_R7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice head. Can we see the wire? And what characcter is it?

That sounds like a lot of polies. Then again, most of my characters are under 1,000, so what do I know.

Maybe instead of eyeslits one big slit going across, or several vertical slits: <||||||>

Cool fire!

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New at this
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posted 02-17-2006 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for New at this   Click Here to Email New at this     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to be fully honest I haven't even read the script, so i don't know who it is.
about 2000 polies

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*poke*...you_there?
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posted 02-17-2006 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for *poke*...you_there?   Click Here to Email *poke*...you_there?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great work, mr.smeagol!!
and nice job new at this!

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monkeyboy
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posted 02-19-2006 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for monkeyboy   Click Here to Email monkeyboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
man,
I shouldn't even be working on this project I can't do Jack comared to anyone on this forum! I sure wish I could. I'm trying my best, but I just can't keep up with everyone eles.

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bad ass ben
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posted 02-20-2006 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bad ass ben   Click Here to Email bad ass ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
eerm ive only just seen this but startrekfan are you sum kind of idiot who sits at home all day on anim8or cus if u do thats quite bad, if ure just really good on it im sorry.

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Mr.Smeagol
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posted 02-20-2006 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.Smeagol   Click Here to Email Mr.Smeagol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats excelent head so far

monkeyboy - dark saruman is also helping, and he just downloaded anim8or when he joined the project... , I'm helping him, So if you need help in anything, just ask, dont give up...

badd ass ben. Seen what? And don't just go around calling people idiots!
Startrekfan is cool! ,nothing wrong with him...

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rify
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posted 02-21-2006 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rify   Click Here to Email rify     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi! im interested joining this project. i got experience of Anim8or and ive been working whiw SAA (Swedish Animation Assoacation), please post me if you want to see any of my work.

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monkeyboy
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posted 02-21-2006 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for monkeyboy   Click Here to Email monkeyboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi,
Is there a way for me to get a copy of the script without having to be a member a yahoo. thenk you.
monkeyboy-

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Morprok
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posted 02-21-2006 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morprok   Click Here to Email Morprok     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
monkeyboy - I have it hosted on my geocities site right now that I can give you a link to but I don't know how everyone will feel if I do so. So with that said, is there anyone here who DOES NOT want me to just freely link it here?

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Mr.Smeagol
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posted 02-22-2006 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.Smeagol   Click Here to Email Mr.Smeagol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Morprok - It's up to PR_7 to decide that, it's his script. My opinion is that everyone helping should join the yahoo group and get the script from there. But.... if you'd like to put it on another website... I don't mind.

Me and Saruman are almost done with the torch.
Also I already did more than 50% of the ceiling.

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P_R7
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posted 02-22-2006 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for P_R7   Click Here to Email P_R7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go ahead. It has my copyright on it anyway. Not that I think Monkeyboy will steal it.
Don't call people idiots just because you're jealous they're better.

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Morprok
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posted 02-22-2006 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morprok   Click Here to Email Morprok     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok then, PR_7 is it alright or would you rather monkeyboy joined the Yahoo group?

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posted 02-22-2006 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MP3D   Click Here to Email MP3D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I could speak my mind here....the yahoo group is just a place holder for all the elements of the movie.....there are some people who are not allowed to join a group for what ever reason.and that is stopping them from helping out..IMOP....I think anyone who is willing to devote time to the project/movie should be allowed to help even if they dont join the yahoo group..

Monkeyboy,I agree with you.............I think anyone who puts there self down shouldnt be allowed to work on the project..to me that is telling every one that you are quiteing way before you start to try...there are all kinds of things that need to be modeled from tables to chairs to plants etc..........I tired of seeing people compare them selfs to others..So with that said.....I say this:

We all start at the beginning...which is we find Anim8or and open it up and say to our selfs...UM!!!!! ok now how do I shut this thing down...and we then excell from there...It takes alot of time to achieve any results working with any 3D package...It just happened you found the best starter/can model anything and render anything package out there..(Anim8or)...So stop wishing and start learning.....cool....and dont get mad at me..I am just trying to....PUMP..YOU...UP..

now drop down and give me 20...SON!!!!!lololol...

Mr.Smeagol,the castel is comeing along,,looks realy good....

New at this,the mouth needs some work and you need some more edgeloops around the eyes..but it looks promiseing...keep us updated..

rify,sure you can join in....anyone can..just pick something from the "to do list" then post a topic here to see if anyone is working on it...if not then start modeling...or whatever you choose to do....

Morprok,has the website for the movie comeing along..what is the progress or has it been dropped???also have you made a list or contacted anyone on the progress they are makeing????what has been completed or not..???


my progress report,
I have not started on the dragon or woof..but as soon as i can I will it shouldnt take but a few hours for each model to complete..anywho...I will keep you folks updated....

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Morprok
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posted 02-22-2006 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morprok   Click Here to Email Morprok     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MP3D - Me and Benzjie are still working on the website but right now we're looking for a good host. I have done a... well... hm, what would you call it?... Ah, ok a list about who's working on the project and what their role is. I suppose I should post it in the Yahoo group but originally I was gonna put it on the site. In a few minutes though, it should be in the Yahoo group and ready for looking over (as in if there's anyone I didn't mention in it contact me right away! lol).

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benney
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posted 02-23-2006 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benney   Click Here to Email benney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone.

I guess that some of you were beginning to think I'd done a runner, well I haven't. I've been sitting here quietly reading your discussions and checking out your progress and images.

I would like to assure all those involved and any future prospects that the yahoo group is there (as MP3D said) for storage. You don't have to join to become a part of the project, I just thought it would be easier to have everything in one place so that if you need anything, then you know where you should be able to find it or store it.

I have noticed a little back biting going on which I feel is a little silly. COME ON EVERYONE! enjoy what you do, because when you enjoy it you create it. We're all amatuers in one way or anouther. Just do the best that you can do and love it.

The music side is developing slowly. I am working on a piece of music for battle scene but I won't release it until I know I am happy with it. I am also sorting a sort of House/Rap/Techno piece for the advertising campaign of the "Ugly Maiden" product.

Great Job on the tower internals. Mind you I have notice something, and that is the "Dark Tower" music might have to be changed because most of the walking will be done indoors and at this moment the music and effects are set outdoors. Not worry to much though because as I have said before, I can create musical renditions but I can't create anything definite until I see the finished AVI for that or any other section of the film and so all my pieces have to remain in a flexible situation until I can run it alondside the AVI.

Overall - Keep up the good work and enjoy it. Life's too short to worry

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