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MP3D Member |
posted 03-16-2006 09:26 PM
   
here is an update on the dragon...this is 3 hours into the model......if anyone wants something changed ...please say something now....anywho....here it is....
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benney Junior Member |
posted 03-17-2006 06:21 AM
quote: It looks just like the missus IP: Logged |
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Mr.Smeagol Junior Member |
posted 03-17-2006 06:34 AM
MP3D - The dragon is awsome !!!!!! It's very detailed and i like it  Nice edgeloops -... but who am I to tell you about your edgeloops - lol,  keep it coming IP: Logged |
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P_R7 Junior Member |
posted 03-17-2006 02:16 PM
Pretty good! I think his neck is a little small though, the back of his head needs something, and he needs some ears eventually. I like it! IP: Logged |
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MP3D Member |
posted 03-17-2006 08:06 PM
Welcome back benney,I cant wait to hear what you have been working on.... Thanks Mr.Smeagol for the kind words...And I would take C&Cs from you any time or day...so help me out if you see something thats not quit right cool.... P_R7,I have uploaded a new render of the dragon.(this ones about 3 hours of work on and off). I think all that is left on the dragon is legs feet fangs and textures....do ya'll think i should make the teeth realy sharp or should I go for a set of human like with a few K9 teeth???and should I make him have a forked tongue or a big massive tongue??? later, IP: Logged |
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monkeyboy Junior Member |
posted 03-17-2006 09:10 PM
hey, I like the dragon so far. I thing that a forked tounge like you said would be cool. Is it going to have horns also? Hey by the way I've been trying to work on the robot gaurd, in armour and I found that I do better on organic models. I am still trying to work on the robot, but after this I think I will try to work on somthing not man made. Any suggestions would be great. IP: Logged |
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benney Junior Member |
posted 03-18-2006 05:56 AM
quote: Thanks MP3D. At this moment i'm working on creating a fade over from the 'A dark tower somewhere' to the entrence image of the meadow for the kidnapping scene and then I'll be working on something for that scene in total. IP: Logged |
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feeg Junior Member |
posted 03-18-2006 12:16 PM
tht dragon looks really good,what's the texture gonna look like for it... I don't understand how to do them mind... that's y i'm doing animation! IP: Logged |
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P_R7 Junior Member |
posted 03-18-2006 01:10 PM
I would go with the forked tongue and sharp teeth. Also, looking again at the picture, the eyes are slanting the wrong way, I think they should be set in a sort of flattened V shape for the evil look. Those arms are good, but the claws are a little long, his hands should be more muscular. I think his chin needs a lift .(personal opinion) Don't forget he has small wings in the back as well. Keep up the good work, master edgelooper! Can't wait for a sample, Benney! IP: Logged |
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Mr.Smeagol Junior Member |
posted 03-18-2006 02:45 PM
Mp3D, Here are some pics i think may help you with the wings anatomy: (and possibly horns or anything else?) http://www.whiskeysierragrafics.com/grafiken/fantasy/yurassic/dragon%20&%20pentagram -y.jpg http://www.acraftaffair.com/images/red_dragon_1.jpg some teeths and tounge: http://free-zg.htnet.hr/bitterness/Green%20Dragon.jpg some "ears" stuff that i think would look nice http://elftown.lysator.liu.se/img/photo/8734_1122483035.jpg offcourse our's dragon's wings would be much smaller (or not?) I know our dragon is supposed to be different and original, but I'd just like it to be 10% more like other/ordinary dragons... Just enough so you can say from first look that that's a dragon MP3D - dont worry about yahoo resising your pic, we just click "large" button to make it original size PR_7 - you said lights for tower still need some tweaking in collor and the strop light also something, so I leave that 4 you to do it... link it back to me once you'r done
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startrekfan002 Junior Member |
posted 03-19-2006 03:19 AM
Okay; i promised a fur example a while ago. I have been getting a hard time finding a decent texture, which i by the way STILL did not find. here is an example and the texture i used for transparency:  http://www.hetcalandlyceum.com/computerclub/fur.jpg http://www.hetcalandlyceum.com/computerclub/fur.an8 if this is going to be worked out i think it should provide some really good fur. (diffuse is set at 234,210,184) edit:woops... sorry for the big image. edit: nvm [This message has been edited by startrekfan002 (edited 03-19-2006).] IP: Logged |
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Morprok Junior Member |
posted 03-19-2006 07:44 PM
Ok, I finally got my laptop fixed. But ya, feeg I don't mind having some more help with the website and I'm sure Benzjie wouldn't mind either but right now we need a good, free host to put the website on so if you or anyone here know of any good one please let me know. But feeg, it would be great if you had MSN messenger that way we can chat and won't have to use email or any other means of communication. Benzjie and I are currently working together through MSN. MP3D - great dragon! I like it a lot but there is one thing that just doesn't-in my opinion-look right. The snout. I find it looks too short and stubby. And for the teeth and tongue I think you should go with the sharp teeth and split tongue. I'll make the voice recording now once I figure out what to say lol just in case you guys still want it. IP: Logged |
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feeg Junior Member |
posted 03-21-2006 06:57 AM
I know a couple of free hosting sites (most of which are 50 meg space...but no ads!) my msn is feeg641@gmail.com but i am hving problems with my internet(should be sorted out within the next month!) I know a really cheap hosting company IP: Logged |
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MP3D Member |
posted 03-21-2006 04:25 PM
Ok folks,you win i will make changes to the dragon,per the refrence images Mr.Smeagol and P_R7,monkeyboy,Morprok,and anyone else who mas mentioned an idea..thats what so cool about edgeloops you can rework the model with very little effort.... Anywho....I will work it out....thanks for the help.... as for textures Iam not sure right now.....I havent spent to much time unwraping and UV mapping a model...but Iam sure i can Get her done.....Hopefully.... MP3D IP: Logged |
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Morprok Junior Member |
posted 03-22-2006 02:40 PM
Ok I was trying to see if I could get a decent recording and I found out there's no where in my house that won't give background noise so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do voice acting and I was thinking about it and to be perfectly honest, I don't really feel like voice acting anymore. IP: Logged |
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benney Junior Member |
posted 03-23-2006 02:16 AM
quote: If you really want to give it a try then do the following. Find the smallest room you can to record in. Close the curtains and door. Create some type of frame work around you and hang some long sheets or towels. The sheets or towels and closing the curtains and door etc will act as a dampner to reduce the room acoustics. IP: Logged |
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benney Junior Member |
posted 03-23-2006 02:20 AM
quote: It's a shame really because I thought he was kinda cute. I mean, this is essentially a movie with some humor so I would have thought the characters would some humoristic features and to be honest what you created, I thought fitted the bill perfectly. But what do I know, I'm just a musician in the software world but a professional artist in the real world IP: Logged |
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startrekfan002 Junior Member |
posted 03-23-2006 04:04 AM
regarding the dragon..... I think there should be some changes, but not in the direction of realistic. Like a bigger head, very tiny wings (where he can actually fly with  ). So indeed, a "cute" look, a little baby-like. I think that would be funniest.[This message has been edited by startrekfan002 (edited 03-23-2006).] IP: Logged |
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MP3D Member |
posted 03-23-2006 12:50 PM
well this is what I was thinking about the dragon...The script is realy good but on the lines of a comedy...so Haveing a full blown futureistic dragon wasnt in my mind when I started to work on him...I was following P_R7 drawings that was posted...the only thing I didnt follow was the snot(?)instead of being pointy i made it stuby...He will have tiny little wings...A forked tongue..I will slant the eyes a little but not to much...we can work with morph targets for facial expression.. Anywho...I will post an update soon...Once he is finished I will work on woof.... MP3D IP: Logged |
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theater375 Junior Member |
posted 03-23-2006 02:09 PM
I do agree it is best to have a cute dragon. It makes the whole idea of it kidnapping the ugly maiden so much more rediculus. More of a publisity stunt. IP: Logged |
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P_R7 Junior Member |
posted 03-23-2006 06:08 PM
Well, writing the script I had him in mind as the will-do-anything-for-money type, a little tired of the world, bored, sarcastic, laconic, etc. I don't think you want a dragon that accepts bribes and participates in fraud to look cute. Hm, actually I guess i din't actually state in the script that he took gold, but it fits. I mean, he's not doing it for free. So, not realistic, but not cute. Just amoral in cartoonish sense. I'll soon be posting a text file with pretty loose descriptions of characters, how they look, dress, and what their attitude is. Stfan, could you explain your fur? I think I speak for all of us when I say that all I see is some transparent quads- though in the back of my mind I sense that this is good and is going to look cool... it's just not clicking in the front of my brain yet. Hey, what happened here? A week ago we were smokin', 5 posts a day with progress reports and new recruits, and now we're lucky to have one a day! Come on people! Action! Where's the new people! You're all getting lazy! Drop and give me 20, soldier! Why are you still reading? Get moving! IP: Logged |
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theater375 Junior Member |
posted 03-23-2006 06:47 PM
I'll be going on spring break vacation on saturday and be back the 30th, so I won't be around on the boards for then, but I'll post once I get back. Just to let you know I haven't forgotten about you guys. IP: Logged |
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benney Junior Member |
posted 03-23-2006 09:27 PM
quote: Steady on my good man. The reason you're not getting the posts is because we are all busy creating the parts. Which would you rather have:- A lot of mishmash chat and no results or good results and positve periodic chat. You have to remember that we are all volunteers so those kind of comments won't do the willpower much good if you know what I mean IP: Logged |
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Mr.Smeagol Junior Member |
posted 03-24-2006 03:06 AM
hey PR_7... I'm not posting any updates becasue I'm waiting 4 you to fix the lighting stuff you said that need to be fixed on the tower... (you know - that about the light on the ceiling & stuff...) Ps. I'm making my own site and I'll put the anim8or movie sectin with links and script [This message has been edited by Mr.Smeagol (edited 03-24-2006).] IP: Logged |
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P_R7 Junior Member |
posted 03-24-2006 02:03 PM
Seeya soon, theater375! Benney, I stand corrected! Mr. Smeagol, how would it be if we let benney use the thunder as punctuation for the music, then simply time our lightning to match it? In the meantime, I'll set up the position of the lights but not the animation. I will also set up the lightning position and the camera- should we use transparency mapped lightnig or modeled lightning? I just found a way to make some pretty cool lightning, but a transparency map would be more realistic. I think I can make the map with this program I have, it does some cool lightning. According to the poll I put on the An8MovieZone Site, the majority of us want to have a production schedule. So, if we could all examine our schedules and whip up a plan off of this list of jobs: concept art I think I have a more recent task list somewhere, but I can't find it. I've just posted THE CHARACTER DESCRIPTION LIST under text files>voiceacting. IP: Logged |
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MP3D Member |
posted 03-24-2006 08:41 PM
P_R7,The dialog(voice acting must be done first) so the Anim8or's can lip sync to the voice track and also at the same time anim8 the movements of the models(fluid motion)within the scene...this allows the Anim8or's clarity on the emotion expressed by each model..and how they react to the enviroment/scene they are in..Which then brings us to haveing the enviroments complete.This must happen before the models are placed in there enviroment/scene..With out those two elements it will be hard to guess where to place the sound effects/lip syncing within the timeline..Basicly if there are no visual enviroments/scene's where the models interact with each other we will have to guess whats going on within the timeline... So this is what needs to be complete first(imop): 1:voice acting recorded(all parts of the movie). these are just my thoughts..And things I have read and have been doing for my projects...We can use JLIPSYNC for the lipsyncing part it will provide us with a doop sheet so the Anim8or's know where to keyframe the lips....cool.... MP3D IP: Logged |
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benney Junior Member |
posted 03-25-2006 04:35 AM
quote: I agree 100% with you MP3D. This is like a piece of art in a frame. The animators create the art and then when it is finnished the musicians and FX personnel place it in the frame. IP: Logged |
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feeg Junior Member |
posted 03-25-2006 05:45 AM
I agree with the order, + i think that we should have some more stability and make sure that everyone knows what they have to do, I think all the models for each scene should be put in a single folder named whatever the scene is. When they are made tho.! IP: Logged |
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P_R7 Junior Member |
posted 03-25-2006 02:08 PM
I didn't mean in that order, I just coppied that list from page 2 of all the stuff to be done. Good idea feeg. About JLipsync, I read an article saying you should go for rough shape of the mouth by sylabbles, not letters. But I haven't done very much lipsyncing. Are the LAME MP3 encoders legal? I have my voice sample all ready to put up, only it's a wav, 1.5 megs, and it goes so slow uploading that my server gives up or Yahoo stops generating the upload page or something. So I need an encoder for Audacity, but I'm not sure if LAME is legal. Any comments, questions, suggestions, or crits on my character descriptions? IP: Logged |
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benney Junior Member |
posted 03-25-2006 03:42 PM
quote: If you are worried then try this free wav to mp3 encoder http://www.dirfile.com/wav_to_mp3_encoder.htm IP: Logged |
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Juanito Junior Member |
posted 03-25-2006 05:25 PM
srry ive not been posting... ive been busy and stressed out... is there anything else i need 2 modd besides raft? IP: Logged |
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feeg Junior Member |
posted 03-25-2006 08:02 PM
lame is completly legal! i use it with my audacity when i record pandora (i don't live in the us either, if u ws wonderin, search google for zip code )edit: i aquired my version of lame from winamp i think, either that or ashampoo [This message has been edited by feeg (edited 03-25-2006).] IP: Logged |
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Morprok Junior Member |
posted 03-27-2006 12:36 PM
I decided to do some recording the other night and chose the camera guy if that's alright. I don't know what made me just suddenly want to do some voice acting but I did and I'm going to post it on the group once I'm done writing this so I hope it'll be what's needed. IP: Logged |
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theater375 Junior Member |
posted 03-31-2006 09:11 AM
Hi, I'm back! I do agree with the order things have to be done, starting with voice acting and environments (which can be done at the same time). I think we need someone to decide and keep track of who is doing what charactor. P_R7 might be a good choice since he wrote the script. Whatever we do, we just need an offical list. IP: Logged |
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P_R7 Junior Member |
posted 03-31-2006 02:51 PM
I've actually started a spreadsheet, but uo're the only one actually cast... I don't think I've heard everyone's samples yet, and I'm not sure I want to be the one to make all the casting decisions. But I will keep the list. IP: Logged |
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MP3D Member |
posted 03-31-2006 06:39 PM
i would be happy to help in the casting of the voice actors if that is allright with everyone. If so then those who want to submit a sample of there voice READING parts of the script on the character they want to do then e-mail me the sound track.Make sure that you put (Anim8or,voice over submital)as the subject. And also include the name of character you want to do..and your forum name so we know who is wanting to do what. the sound file being sent should be MP3 format so the file size isnt so big....cool.. MP3D IP: Logged |
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monkeyboy Junior Member |
posted 03-31-2006 11:12 PM
hi, I was wondering if there are any small in-animate objects I can model. I'm not so good at modeling, so if you give me somthing small to work on I can probably do it. By the way when the time comes I would like to animate people and things, because I'm pretty good at that kind of thing. monkeyboy- IP: Logged |
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MP3D Member |
posted 03-31-2006 11:45 PM
ok I think that we need to be more oragnized..So I created a small Message Board on my new Website space that I have yet to build so I made a quick page just for the Anim8or Movie...Please READ the Main PAGE, there is information you need to know before you use the Message board...I will update this board as people begin to post/e-mail what they are doing...It is nothing speical its not a new forum.Its a Message Board where we can go to see who is doing what and what is complete...If you see a topic that I have not coverd please create a new one with a subject line that explans in detail what the topic is about... Go here to view the tiny little Message board for our Anim8or Movie...Please use this resource it will help keep things going.
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theater375 Junior Member |
posted 04-01-2006 05:18 PM
The message board is a good idea, but the ads are a little annoying. If you want, I can look around the web to find some free adless space for a message board. IP: Logged |
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Morprok Junior Member |
posted 04-01-2006 06:19 PM
Ok, um... I have the voice acting done for the Camera Guy if that's alright and it's posted in the Yahoo group so to where do you want me to move it or do I have to? IP: Logged |
Welcome to the team all you new members and yes I will back you up with what you say MP3D (us musicians have got to stick together 
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Bob_I_Ts, if you're reading this, could you start a topic in this forum for us to discuss the schedule so we don't have to clutter up this topic? Thank you!This topic is 23 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 All times are PT (US) | next newest topic | next oldest topic |
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