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MP3D Member |
theater375,That would be great.. What I was trying to do is have a place listing everything going on for the movie. We have the yahoo group where we can upload concepts art,music etc. which is a great resource but we have had people say they were going to build a site that would keep track of things. this hasnt happened. This message board is small and doesnt take a whole lot of time to keep together. One page to edit the whole board. I didnt want to create a new forum we dont need a new forum. If you want to look for a addless message board that would be cool.
let me know what you come up with...
we need to have structure for this to work. IP: Logged |
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theater375 Junior Member |
I found one that is free and addless, and set up an account. http://www.cabspace.com/forums/index.php?mforum=anim8or This is in no way meant to replace the forum here, it is just for more specific discussion, such as objects and characters. We can continue to discuss as normal here of course. The other forum is just a place for more orginization. If you sign up, please use your regular anim8or name, that way we know who's who. The admin account of that forum is named anim8or, but I have a regular account for myself. IP: Logged |
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MP3D Member |
theater375,You should rename your boards.Its like anther forum. the topics should be like the ones I made on the Message board I made. That way we know what topic is Enviroments,Moldeing,voice acting ect. That way each topic doesnt get filled with non-related posts. we have the yahoo group to upload our progress on modeling..The wip board will just end up as a show off place for things that are not part of the movie... Iam not being mean. I have been here for a long time and have seen to many attemps at makeing movies. if we can keep everything we do strickly on the movie and have a website that limits what is posted then we should be able to complete it... Just my thoughts. Please dont take it personal.cool! MP3D IP: Logged |
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theater375 Junior Member |
I put in the topics you had on your site, so now its more specific like you wanted. No offence taken at all. As the topic descriptions, for the most part, I put in your first post on all of the topics. As I was copying them, I was about ready to kill that clown add. The other message board will give us all a little more concentration. If anyone sees a topic that should be added to the board, just tell me and I will add it. Oh, and Mp3d, when you join, I'll give you admin so you can sort the topics, and set up like you were originaly thinking. If you want, we can even condense it to one topic thing rather than several to get a more message board feel rather than forum. I just like the ad free thing. [This message has been edited by theater375 (edited 04-01-2006).] IP: Logged |
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MP3D Member |
ok I have joined the message board.I left you a message on the chit chat board theater375.Yes that Clown was realy getting on my nerves too.lol
This is NOT! anther forum...This is a place holder for the Movie. We need to keep track of whats going on if we want this to be completed. Please go to the message board and post in the topic that you want to work on..This will give everyone a feel for who is working on the movie. MP3D IP: Logged |
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theater375 Junior Member |
The message board is up and running now, if you would like to post what you are working on, please do that. That way its a more central location. Pretty soon, if no one has any objections, using the info we collect on the message board I can make an offical web list, telling who's doing what, and what's been done. I know we have a list on yahoo, but not everyone can access that, so a web site might be a more open source. Edit: I've started work on the website. Its by the same company as the message board, free and adless which is nice. It has links to all of the main project sites. Pretty soon, I'll start a list of what we need, who's working on what, and what is done. I majorly need everyone's help getting this list together. Please post here, the message board, or e-mail me at lafille67@yahoo.com what you are working on so I can make this list happen. You can find the websitehere I also think we need to put some people in charge of certain parts of the project, that way people can contact them if there are questions. There are some topics that people are already somewhat incharge of (benny = music, P_R7 = script), but some catigories are more up for grabs, and a little leadership might be good for organization. If anyone wants to step up, or nominate someone just say so. [This message has been edited by theater375 (edited 04-02-2006).] IP: Logged |
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MP3D Member |
Thats why i started the message board.We need some structure to this movie.Or it will never be completed. Iam also helping in the soundtrack for the movie.I am also modeling the dragon and woof...I have also volentered to help in the casting for the voice acting.I also started amessage board to help organize this project. theater375 has taken this over which i think is a good idea.she seems to have a good handle on this and in my opinion should continue with the message board.I will post my progress as I go.Or I e-mail theater375 and give her the details on where i am at with my part in the movie... Thanks, IP: Logged |
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P_R7 Junior Member |
Cool board, theater375! I suggest adding a section for discussion of the schedule, MP3D said we need stucture. I don't think right here is good place to discuss a schedule, but there would be perfect. As for the project being dead, it isn't really. I think it's just me holding everybody up by not completing the script... According to the yahoo site's member list we have 30 members- the list in files lists about 15- and here we have about 5 people active. So I can see how you think the project is dead, MP3D. Morprok, I only listened to a few seconds of your clips, but i assume youd like C&C. [This message has been edited by P_R7 (edited 04-02-2006).] IP: Logged |
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theater375 Junior Member |
I've been working on the sight. Eventually I will get up the network of progress pages, but for now i have the frame work up. All I have to do is fill stuff in. Thats the hard part. If you know of something I should fill in, especially for the "To be started" sections, please tell me. A lot of people would like to help, but aren't sure of what to do. And also let me know if you're working on something or have finished something. I would also like to link to the finished products if they are on the web. There are numerous free file hosts like http://www.mooload.com/ that you can put your work on. Oh, I almost forgot. I was wondering about accents. American? Brittish? or does it vary depending on the character? and in that case, how should I do Princess Pustula and ugly maiden? [This message has been edited by theater375 (edited 04-02-2006).] IP: Logged |
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P_R7 Junior Member |
We discussed this a little before but never came to a conclusion. I know MY foreign accents stink. Perhaps you could put up a sample of your british accent and we could get all the british people like benney to critique it. Perhaps with a bit of work we Americans could cultivate pass as Her Majesty's subjects, what what? What do you think, benney old boy? IP: Logged |
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theater375 Junior Member |
Here's my british voice sample. I was going to post it on yahoo, but everyone can access it here... have at it you british chaps I don't know if it qualifies as british or not. edit... [This message has been edited by theater375 (edited 04-02-2006).] IP: Logged |
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benney Junior Member |
quote: Well old chap! BTW - Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thnk I am the oldest one here (41 nearly) and so if anyone wants to volunteer my vocals for a part then suggest away and I'll see what I can do. I also sing IP: Logged |
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anim8ordude2005 Junior Member |
maybe you should get most of the models, then completely finish scene 1 and post it on the movies gallery, so we can see how it is coming on. anim8ordude2005 IP: Logged |
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benney Junior Member |
quote: Now that is something I would love to see. IP: Logged |
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P_R7 Junior Member |
We don't have everything for the first scene. Let alone audio. Benney, both of the kings are older gents... and probably the dragon as well. Hmm.. Perhaps you could go through the character list and recommend accents for each? Any young english males who would like to try for Charlie? British English [This message has been edited by P_R7 (edited 04-03-2006).] [This message has been edited by P_R7 (edited 04-03-2006).] IP: Logged |
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theater375 Junior Member |
I've been working on editing the web site. Once finished, this will be a big resource letting us know what we need to do. Please post or tell me if you see anything that should be added or if there are any mistakes. Thanks! I've been working on a person, if I get her done well enough, we might be able to use her. Right now, its just a WIP and probably oddly preportioned. [This message has been edited by theater375 (edited 04-03-2006).] IP: Logged |
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benney Junior Member |
quote: Once I get chance I'll get the studio setup for vocal work and post you an audio sample of my vocals. This way you can decide, I would rather let the script writer have the final decision of the character vocals because at the end of the day it is the script writer who has the clearer picture in his/her head of the characters personality. We all have our own slightly different interpretation of the characters and this can be a little dangerous. It is a bit like reading a book when each of us have a slightly different image in our mind. IP: Logged |
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P_R7 Junior Member |
Excelent points, benney. I asked you because I don't know the different British accents very well, but now that I think about it it shouildn't be too hard to find samples of each one. I should soon be sending you a WIP of the Rap I'm adding to the script so we can cooperate on it. Theater375, you are correct about the proportions... I suggest finding an anatomy book or using this tutorial. It's a drawing tutorial but it explains proportions pretty well. [This message has been edited by P_R7 (edited 04-04-2006).] IP: Logged |
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feeg Junior Member |
I think finally posting the first scene will get people motivated again!theater, if you need any help with the website i would be glad to lend a hand! and i could do a voice over, i'm only young, 16, but i am english and so could do an english accent! I wud also like to animate some stuffs. i got 5000 mb of webspace with some small ads! www.anim8rix.5000megs.com IP: Logged |
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theater375 Junior Member |
I think I've got the site covered, I've just got to work on getting it updated with what everyone's doing, and I just need everyone's help with that. As for space, I've used 48.84 KB / 100.00 MB (99.95 MB available). They also give 1gig of transfer per day which is very nice. But thanks for the offer. Everyone just keep doing what you're doing, its going great! IP: Logged |
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Codfish2006 Junior Member |
Hey ppl it is me, codfish parents did a cookie wipe and downloaded some stuffso i heven't been able to log on for a bit and i had to make new account... Now, to read EVERY post since i left ![]() Codfish IP: Logged |
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MP3D Member |
Benny,Very good point on the voice acting..I think that we should preview the voice tracks and C&C what we hear.Then once the actor has the recording down then we send the sound track to P_R7 for the final casting and dirrect the motivation of the character...This will allow P_R7 more time to detail the script and maybe make changes to fit the character to a person who wants a certain part.....
Tip on modeling: Getting the proportions right while modeling is a good thing...BUT....Getting everything roughed out with your model is the best thing... Meaning this:Build your model first then add detail later. You will find that your workflow will become faster. And everything will fall into palce as you begin to add that detail...(useing edgeloops will make this workflow happen....).
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benney Junior Member |
quote: I'm looking forward to it P_R7. Just email it direct to me and don't forget that MP3D might want a copy as well so he can run a few ideas across. MP3D. I might sound a little dumb but what is C&C ? [This message has been edited by benney (edited 04-04-2006).] IP: Logged |
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theater375 Junior Member |
Those are some wire frames. I'm modeling it 1/2 at a time, then combining it for previews, and to check out how I'm doing. Those are all just of the one half. I could be doing this entirely wrong, but I'm just starting... IP: Logged |
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Mr.Smeagol Junior Member |
Hi everybody.... theater.... I do se some stuff wrong with the wireframe - mostly triangles.... there arent supposed to be any triangles in edgelooping - aldo I never actual did any edgeloopping, sooo MP3D will correct you in everything, except for that -veeery nice ![]() and now to everything else.... I'm not dead.... I'm following your progres every day twice at least, I just didnt have much time lately.... mostly because of school.... I've been experimenting some more with trees but It din't work out - I promise to make at least 3 or 4 more trees from this tree template I already have.... Also I've been experimenting with terrain setup - and I've been thinking.... It would take much memory in MB-s to make big terrains (small ones would look to real) - so I came to an idea to make seamles terrain that would repeat itself in scene mode couple of times - there4 saving up memory to 6 or 9 times... (or more...)... I've had some sucsess with that already.... Main reason I'm not so active is That I'm vaiting 4 PR_7 to fix the tower lighting setup as he had in mind... so I can finish the tower... (It's almost finished already.... ) And then I'll be doing the two trones room and forest environment..... ..... I've been concerned about one thing.... LOS (line of sight) of anim8or is suprisingly low for big open terrains.... so It just cuts of anything more than let's say 100 (maybe 300?) meters away from camera.... Is there no way to work around this??? Except of putting every terrain scene in downhills...(I mean the space betwen two hills - like some sort of canyon... ) ? IP: Logged |
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MP3D Member |
Benny,C&C means "Comments and Criticism" or "Comments and Critics"...And I would like a cold glass of coke with crushed ice..lololol..(inside joke folks you want to know what its all about join the message board and help out with the movie.And you can have some popcorn too).
I marked up your picture. Hopefully you can make out what Iam trying to say in the picture...
Yes P_R7 I would like to have a copy just to stay current with what is going on..Benny once you have found what you are wanting send me what you have and I will see if I can add to it or better yet voice my opinion..Cool!!!!..But iam sure I wont be able to add anything because we kinda think alike on music so you will get there before I do...lol...
Mr.Smeagol YOUR STILL ALIVE!!!!!Welcome back!!!!!!! there is a fix for large enviroments in Anim8or... Go to scene mode and click on "settings" then click on "Enviroment" then at the bottom you will see a button "Advanced" click on that this is the Z near and Z far..Set z far to as high as it will go...And z near to like 1 ...now your landscape wont go out of focus in camera view...Now the draw back to haveing large objects in scene mode is...In any other view besides camera view and top view your object will lose focus and some/all of your object wont be seen...but thats ok...If you go to my website I show you how to move the camera around in Camera view..Doing this there is no need to change views while anim8ing.. WELCOME BACK!!!! MP3D [This message has been edited by MP3D (edited 04-04-2006).] IP: Logged |
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theater375 Junior Member |
thanks so much mp3d! I made the changes, so now you can inspect and please tell me what to do next to fix it. [img=http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7544/edgeloop4ez.th.jpg] IP: Logged |
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P_R7 Junior Member |
Wow, I lost place what with all the new posts! Theater375, I don't know anything about edgelooping but as for proportions, your head is too big, the torso is too short, and the arm looks too thick. The dress might need lengthening as well. I haven't analysed it thourougly, that's just my eye talking. Did you read the tut? Feeg, a 16 year old with an English accent! 16-20 is the age Prince Charlie seems to be, so you might get the part! 'm not making any promises, mind you. I'll have to listen to you first. Codfish, so good to see you! (Figuratively speaking.) MP3D, those are good ideas. I'm sorry for neglecting you with the rap. Mr. Smeagol, sorry. I don't have any rela excuses 'cept for school... I deleted my first lightnig setup because I didn't like it and I'm working on another. It's going to be a challenge to align the lightning flash transmaps so that they can be seen through the windows in the right scale. I'll put the tower at the top of my list, I promise! I think fractals are repeating patterns, so once you find where they repeat, tiling should be painless... hopefully. Any more comments on the Schedule? I have decided that I would like to try for the part of Smidgeon. He seems to be written for me!! (well, that makes sense, actually) I'll probably need some doctoring on my voice since I'm 14. I'll post my sample soon now that I have LAME. Ta-ta, cheerio, pip pip, what what? My dad does a very ...interesting English Accent, maybe I can get him to act. IP: Logged |
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theater375 Junior Member |
The arm's more of a dress sleeve... I'll work on actual limbs as I go. I've got to get some legs and arms on her, right now she's really just a head with a dress! It will come as I go. IP: Logged |
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MP3D Member |
ok I marked up the picture. [img=http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8775/edgeloop5ez0bz.th.jpg] . Now what I want you to do is work the rest of the head ... This is what I want you to focus on when you modeling... 1: while modeling think of 4 point polies(quads)if you see a triangle rework it untill it is gone. 2:Make sure that every loop in continueous. Meaning they dont stop and end somewhere with nowhere to go.This does not mean if you follow an edge you end up where you started from. 3:never use a sphere to model a head.lolol..
Triangles are not forbiden.you CAN use them in some areas of your model.But with a proper edgelooped model it can be done in ALL quads.(The Whole Model). Those area's That should never have triangles are area's that will be anim8ed. When useing triangles make sure they are hidden.Like on the head were you plan to put hair.In my opinion triangles should be avoided.but hey sometimes they pop up..SO HIDE THEM ...lololololololol.. ok lets see some edgeloops on that there model.Oh dont start to detail yet. Get the loops flowing first. Then go back and tweak the mesh.
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Codfish2006 Junior Member |
I was just reading the script when i came upon the robits and i thought, hey i could do the voices for these guys. reasons: Their part isn't too major and isn't too minor. They are prety cool. And I ave this odd fasinaction with robots! But, i woun't be able to get a sample in for a while because my mic fell from my desk and got ran over by my chair and it broke so i'll have to buy a new one. CODFISH [This message has been edited by Codfish2006 (edited 04-04-2006).] IP: Logged |
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theater375 Junior Member |
I think I'm starting to get the hang of this! I now know what edge looping really is, and how to do it. I'm working on reworking the model, when I get it mostly right, I'll post it again. codfish- I know all about breaking mics! I must have gone through at least five by now. With long periods of time where I couldn't do any recording for lack of equiptment... Good luck and happy recordings. [This message has been edited by theater375 (edited 04-04-2006).] IP: Logged |
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P_R7 Junior Member |
Ooh.. I feel your mike's pain... My voice sample is up! I like playing with accents but I didn' really try to do anything special fpr Smidge. just recorded it. It's not my best acting ever, just a sample. IP: Logged |
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benney Junior Member |
quote: Ah now I know what C&C means (thought i was missing out on something for a minute then I will email you a copy of what P_R7 has sent me so you can have a play around. I have to confess that rap and hiphop is not my strong point but I'm game for just about anything So that's 2 cokes, 1 LARGE bag of popcorn and of course a bag of crisps to get on everyone nerves whilst opening it during the good bit BTW - Can everyone stop breaking their mics please IP: Logged |
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P_R7 Junior Member |
If I broke mine, my dad would be rather mad at me... it's his. I sent MP3D a copy at the same time I sent you a copy, 11:30 last night my time. WHAT? I don't like rap, you don't like rap, why are ALL OUR NUMBERS RAP NUMBERS!? Becasue it's a fun genre to make fun of? Who knows? I actually didn't post my sample because even in MP3 format, the upload page expired before the upload was finished. So I sent it to you guys instead. Incidentally, I gave you both a few lines as yourself, Benney's in the rap, MP3D's in the closing credits. I found myself with a few gags left over so I'm making acollection to put in the credits, like those Pixar blooper things. Mr. Smeagol, I've done some work on the tower butit's not up yet. Perhaps you could work on a roof and the rest of the tower that's holding it up? I changed the first scene a tad bit and it needs to look good on the exterior. IP: Logged |
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Mr.Smeagol Junior Member |
Alright PR_7, I can start doing the exterior, but we can't work on a tower in a same time... So are you gonna do it later? IP: Logged |
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P_R7 Junior Member |
Well, I thought you could model the roof as a separate object as I refined the flashes, then add the object later. But, the lights are all in place anyway, just need some color tweaks, and the lightning flashes have to be added later anyway. What I'm trying to say is I'm pretty much done except for tweaking the color, but you could do that. I'll put it up tomorrow morning or afternoon if that's alright. IP: Logged |
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theater375 Junior Member |
I finally have flowing edgeloops! They go all around and I think its mostly correct. I might have a problem with it still though, I have some pentagons. I know triangles are taboo, but I don't know about pentagons... I'll post the file or some pictures later. I have to finish my math homework. IP: Logged |
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anim8ordude2005 Junior Member |
I could do a voice, here are my "specs" british (not the kind of britain who goes: "spiffing what what" or anything like that lol) 12 male any parts i could play?? anim8ordude2005 IP: Logged |
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Mr.Smeagol Junior Member |
Ok, I made a bigger voice sample ( 1:05 minutes...)... and I uploaded it on Yahoo group site... Ok, Pr_7, that's allright for the tower - just link it to me once you'r cool with it IP: Logged |
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