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theater375
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posted 04-29-2006 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theater375     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, since my opinion has been asked...
I think that the hats would be very nice for ugly maiden, because they are just that, ugly. I'm sure in the time period however, they looked stylish and good. Its all a matter of perspective. What it ultimately comes down to is, what can be modeled sucessfully, and what fits in the best. Since I am not a very good modeler, I think it is up to someone with more experience to say what can realisticly be done.
(I do like the drawing of the blonde in the pretty blue dress though.)

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madkrazy512
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posted 04-30-2006 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madkrazy512   Click Here to Email madkrazy512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok well i read most of the posts, i read pages 1-12, and 18, it was abotu a 3 hour reading and i think i know enough about this movie to come aboard. i'm a little rusty with the ol' anim8or. ive only had it for a couple months. but i learn quickly, so i hope to help in anyway i can, i read the script and have looked at all the models posted on the yahoo group site. I hope i am allowed to join, although i know u guys welcome most with open arms. which is totally kool, so ill look through the script again and choose something basic to start modeling and move up from there

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Mr.Smeagol
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posted 04-30-2006 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.Smeagol   Click Here to Email Mr.Smeagol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cool madcrazy ! that's the aditude !!!

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madkrazy512
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posted 04-30-2006 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madkrazy512   Click Here to Email madkrazy512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thx Mr.Smeagol glad i got ur aproval, i still havnt decided on my model yet but i will shortly and let u guys know.

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theater375
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posted 04-30-2006 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theater375     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got a new microphone. I think it's good-quality, I'm not that knowledgeable in this area. It's very good at voice recognition. It's better recording quality than my previous microphone anyways. My voice is clearing up. I will be able to get recording, but I'm still not sure if you want British or American for the accent. I can do both of them, and see which one you like.

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madkrazy512
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posted 04-30-2006 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madkrazy512   Click Here to Email madkrazy512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok well i was just wondering wat would be the title of the movie. not that it really matter at this point, it would just b good to know, that is if we even have one

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P_R7
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posted 04-30-2006 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for P_R7   Click Here to Email P_R7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Madcrazy! Check the page before this... we're still wracking our brains to come up with something.

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madkrazy512
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posted 04-30-2006 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madkrazy512   Click Here to Email madkrazy512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh ok then guess is kipped over that part hehe silly me well im sure we'll come up with something amazing. by the way startrekfan00X has ur website been down. i havnt been able to follow any links u hav posted to ur website.

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madkrazy512
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posted 04-30-2006 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madkrazy512   Click Here to Email madkrazy512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
alrite well i kinda had this model from a while a go which mite be used for somebody in the movie. the only thing u mite notice is i cant model heads or hands at all. lol and the feet or liek duck feets but im thinking of just making thme like shoes. anyideas who we could use it for and any volunteers to finish it up. ill post the model in yahoo. i havnt integrated clothes. all i did was basicly add dif't color materials to the model. well help me out wiht this model guys. it could be useful. :P )i hope)

lol u wouldnt belive how many times i had to edit this post to get this image thing down. i got it now though

i just made this today:

i dotn know if anyone worked on it already but here it is the gameboy.
hmm im starting to think i need to read over some texturing tuts. mite help my modelign out a bit
tell me wat u think

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theater375
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posted 04-30-2006 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theater375     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The gameboy looks nice. You might want to post some wireframe shots or share the file so people can take a look to make sure everything's all right.

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madkrazy512
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posted 04-30-2006 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madkrazy512   Click Here to Email madkrazy512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah ok ill touch it up and but the file on yahoo prob by tonight still and ill get a wireframe pic in here

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P_R7
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posted 04-30-2006 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for P_R7   Click Here to Email P_R7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks good, but we would like to see the wireframes. Is the gameboy subdivided? I'm fair at texturing, I might be able to help you out a little.

Good news, I just wrote an ending for the script that I think I'll stick with. I just have a few touch-ups, and writing the fight scene, which I think I can handle, before I'll be finished and post it and finish this sentence. <gasps for air>

Syziph says if there's any models hard to skin manually he can try to set them up in Weightpainter, his weightpainting program. But it's still a work in progress and might not work precisely right.

Also, Mr. Smeagol, he says that as long as we don't change the vertex numbers, the weightpainting on the horse will stay the same, which makes sense. Exporting to UVMapper will change vertex numbers and mess it up. So we have to figure out a way to texture it without changing vertex numbers or probably, run it back through Weightpainter.

Ta-ta for now, old chaps! Theater375, that British sample sounds pretty good right now. Try reading some lines from the script with PP's personality so I can hear how that sounds. Perhaps Benney or feeg or one of the other Britishers might be able to give you some pointers? But it sounds good, now that I actually listen to it, I thought that I didn't like it but I do. Better than mine will be, I'll probably just do Smidgeon in a Brooklyn accent, or else my Pennsylvanian one... we'll see. You don't object to singing the Ugly Maiden theme song, do you?

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madkrazy512
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posted 04-30-2006 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madkrazy512   Click Here to Email madkrazy512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i will post the wireframes tomorrow, im cleaning up on the extra polys i didnt end up using. and no it is not subdivided. to texture it all i did was use the material editor with different colors in each faces but soem colors mite b of r too shiny or not shiny enough. if u could help P_R7 i would grately apreciate it

and that is very good news about the script
we all knew u could do it
and dotn worry im sure any fight seen u can come up with will be great.
looking foward to reading the final copy

any word on including my half done human model.

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Sunflash
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posted 04-30-2006 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunflash   Click Here to Email Sunflash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, it's been like, a week or two since I've applied to join the Yahoo group. Anybody know whose in charge of responding to those?
LOL, thanks,
-Sunflash

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benney
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posted 05-01-2006 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benney   Click Here to Email benney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sunflash:
Ok, it's been like, a week or two since I've applied to join the Yahoo group. Anybody know whose in charge of responding to those?
LOL, thanks,
-Sunflash

Hi there sunflash. I am the moderator of the yahoo group. If there's a problem please don't hesitate to contact me via the following email ian.bennett73@ntlworld.com or post a message through the yahoo group.

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startrekfan002
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posted 05-01-2006 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for startrekfan002   Click Here to Email startrekfan002     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
madkrazy, my website hasnt been down, but i redesigned it, and i forgot to backup the files i have linked to. There is a new website, which has no use anymore for you guys. sorry

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MimoMovieMaker
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posted 05-01-2006 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MimoMovieMaker   Click Here to Email MimoMovieMaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We really need to put together a list of modells done and models we need!

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P_R7
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posted 05-01-2006 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for P_R7   Click Here to Email P_R7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Madcrazy: crits on the human.
The shoulder/bust area is odd-looking.
The arms are look like a rounded cube with extrusions, though the form is pretty good.
The legs are good except at the bottom the calf seems to curve inwards... might be just the angle.
I think the waist-line could be slanted forward. That's how I usually do mine.
The feet aren't as bad as you think, just the toe area is too flat.
And of course you forgot the anti-aliasing.
It's nice though, good and detailed. The legs are good, a lot of attention to the muscles. The waist on up generally needs
work.
Thanks for the vote of confidence! I'll do my best!

Startrekfan, sorry we don't use your site anymore. Thanks for letting us use it when we did need it though.

MimoMovieMaker, you're right. You can go through and make a list of what's been done, and when I put up the new script you or I can go through it and look for stuff that needs to be done. You could forward the list to Theater375, I think she has a place for it on the Cabspace site and it's easier to get to there than at the Yahoo site.

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Sunflash
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posted 05-01-2006 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunflash   Click Here to Email Sunflash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by benney:
post a message through the yahoo group.

lol, thats the problem. I can't. lol, but that was probably written fast
Anyways, thanks, will do

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madkrazy512
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posted 05-01-2006 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madkrazy512   Click Here to Email madkrazy512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
alright well thx, i havnt been on my computer yet so i havnt been able to get the wireframe pic but ill do that as soon as possible.

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Sunflash
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posted 05-02-2006 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunflash   Click Here to Email Sunflash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Benney, do you still have my voice sample on your compy? Because I noticed it wasn't put up on the Yahoo site, and on accident I deleted it. *looks imberrased*

Also, I noticed that on the "todo" list, there was some pictures mentioned. If I get the art from someone, I can frame it. Here's some examples:

Some more basic frames: (I'm the person to the far right [actually, that was taken a year ago]).
http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/b0d9312990.jpg

And some more elegant ones: (the images in the frames arn't that great, and don't worry, I'm NOT a dictator-lover, these images were being used for a computer game project.)

http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/582342bfae.jpg
http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/dd85b4b655.png

talk to you all later,
-Sunflash

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benney
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posted 05-02-2006 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for benney   Click Here to Email benney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sunflash:
Hey Benney, do you still have my voice sample on your compy? Because I noticed it wasn't put up on the Yahoo site

Sorry about that Sunflash. I totaly forgot (even more embarresd ). With so much going on with my own website and an evergrowing number of students it just totaly slipped my mind (that's my excuse and I'm stiking to it LOL )

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MimoMovieMaker
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posted 05-02-2006 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MimoMovieMaker   Click Here to Email MimoMovieMaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Benney,

Just to let you know that I responded to your post on Yahoo.

Theater,

I'm from the UK and I listened to your English accent and WOW! That's really good! Just one thing. You're accent does sound slightly Australian but only some bits!

Mimo

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theater375
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posted 05-02-2006 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theater375     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! I do a lot of theater (my name). I just like how the Brittish sound, and try to mimic that.

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madkrazy512
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posted 05-02-2006 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madkrazy512   Click Here to Email madkrazy512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok here are the wireframe shots i promissed. take a look and see if i did asnythign rong and how i can fix on it. thankies

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madkrazy512
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posted 05-02-2006 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madkrazy512   Click Here to Email madkrazy512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is the pic of a simple mic i modeled for the camera men and the reporters, but the the textures arent good and i cannot seem to get the logo to show up on the other faces of the mic

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Sunflash
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posted 05-02-2006 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunflash   Click Here to Email Sunflash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originaly Posted by Benny:
With so much going on with my own website and an evergrowing number of students it just totaly slipped my mind

Lol, oh no, I totaly can't blame you, I'm in the same boat... only, I don't have a website... and I don't have students... and well, so I guess I'm not as busy as you, but I still know how you feel

And theater, I LOVED the sound clip. It sounded splendid! There was a part of your soundclip where you mentioned you were probably slipping back into American, well listen to my soundclip (when it gets posted). I actually DO slip into American. I was going to delete the entire thing, but my older sister heard it and said it sounded fine... But I still am not convinced.
-Sunflash

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benney
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posted 05-03-2006 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benney   Click Here to Email benney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sunflash:
listen to my soundclip (when it gets posted).

Hello Sunflash. just to let you know that your soundclip has now been uploaded to the yahoo site for others to have a listen. Sorry again for the delay.

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Mr.Smeagol
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posted 05-03-2006 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.Smeagol   Click Here to Email Mr.Smeagol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey madcrazy, you have too many unnecesary polies on your gameboy, I would like to fix it if you allow me
Does gameboy has any textures ?
Also you uploaded the mic without textures - plz upload textures ?
I can fix the mic model as well...

theater - your british sounds cool to me
Has anyone listened to darksaruman's voice sample ? PR_7 ?

Sunflash - I dont think you should change your voice to suit the character you will do (consultant). I think MP3D and benney can do it much better and with more quality with their software... Am I right benney ?
Anyway that voice sample, sunflash, did sound cool , only a bit strange on some parts, I guess couse you were forcing your voice too much...

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Sunflash
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posted 05-03-2006 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunflash   Click Here to Email Sunflash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by benney:
Hello Sunflash. just to let you know that your soundclip has now been uploaded to the yahoo site for others to have a listen.

Oh boy...

Smeagol, yes, I thought about that fact (That Benny and MP3D could edit the voice to their liking.). The first part of the soundclip was in my normal voice. Then I spliced in all the lines of the consultant in fake voice. I thought about doing the lines again in normal voice. Maybe I will.
-Sunflash

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benney
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posted 05-03-2006 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benney   Click Here to Email benney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Smeagol:
I think MP3D and benney can do it much better and with more quality with their software... Am I right benney ?

I am sorry to say that we cannot create an accent using software, that is down to the actor, however we can create different effects that can turn one voice into 2 or more or give the voice that robotic element. Even create a fake sounding female voice but the accent is down to pronuounciation which is something that is even out of the realm of the top pros.

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MimoMovieMaker
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posted 05-03-2006 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MimoMovieMaker   Click Here to Email MimoMovieMaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm good at accents!

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madkrazy512
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posted 05-03-2006 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madkrazy512   Click Here to Email madkrazy512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well im not very good with accents so i cant volunteer to do any voices, but are all the charecters british and ehehm lol y? not that i care but just wondering

and mr. smeagel u are welcomed to fix my models, infact encouraged. thats y ive been postign my pics and having ppl look at them. and ill post the textures up now. by the time u read this it will already be on the yahoo site. and no the game boy does not have textures. its just differnt colors. u can add textures if u want. its up to u to make it look good.

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posted 05-03-2006 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for P_R7   Click Here to Email P_R7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Has anyone listened to darksaruman's voice sample ? PR_7 ?

Eh... I thought I had reviewed it somewhere... oh well.
You have the Croatian accent of course, Dark Saruman. You do a good job reading English better than I would do reading Croatian, but you need to think about the lines and say them a couple times before recording them. Then record them again. And again. And save all the clips. This is a problem that we'll all have to deal with. In real life people stutter, mess up their words (me especially) but not in Hollywood. The lines have to sound natural That was in bold so everyone would see it. Also your emphasis or rythm, I forget the word, is a bit off. Each language has a certain tempo. Sometimes you, and Mr. Smeagol, emphasize the wrong syllables. Not your fault, but something you'll have to work on just the same. Your acting is pretty good. Technical problems... I think your mic is too close to your mouth, it's clipping.

Sunflash, great sample! You remind me a bit of my cousin.. That's not quite how I had imagined the Consultant, but I like it better, I think! It had me laughing! You added one word to the script. but with the voice it worked. It might need a little deepening in post. A little less on the English accent there... I could barely understand what you were saying. And you WERE forcing your voice, you can hear it especially on the word "characters." Nervousness?

MMM, can we hear a sample?

Madcrazy, I plan to do Smidgeon in my normal or in a Brooklyn accent... he seems the American personality. Then there's the emmissary, the screaming people, etc. What is your nationality?

In reference to that running conversation on Yahoo, will you be using stock sound effects, foley, or both? Foley's a lot of work and expense, I guess...

Still working on the fight scene... or not working on it... but it's not done yet is what I'm trying to say...

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posted 05-03-2006 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunflash   Click Here to Email Sunflash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by P_R7:
Sunflash, great sample! You remind me a bit of my cousin.. That's not quite how I had imagined the Consultant, but I like it better, I think! It had me laughing! You added one word to the script. but with the voice it worked. It might need a little deepening in post. A little less on the English accent there... I could barely understand what you were saying. And you WERE forcing your voice, you can hear it especially on the word "characters." Nervousness?


Actually, I think it's more "Lack of practice". The english accent part of my clip... if you can even call it that, does get really low at times, I think it was my face moving away from the microphone. I definently agree with you though, we should paractice each line MANY times, then choose the one that fits best. Another thing, something that would REALLY help in voice recording, is to know what the character before you says. It's a bit hard to explain. But I think if, say, the first sentance of a scene was spoken by Smidgeon, then the person playing Smidgeon should record the sentance, post it in a folder on the Yahoo site. Then if Prince Charlie is supposed to say the next sentance, then the person playing him would post the next sentence. This would REALLY help, because you could hear he tone in the previous characters voice. This would help people know how they should say their lines. One of the problems with this approach is that doing the recording could take a lot longer. But we could do several scenes at once to speed the time up.

Anyways, there's some things to chew on
-Sunflash

P.S. Yes, I think my voice does need depening. I'm going through my 14 year old "voice change". So that could be why it sounds like I'm straining my voice.

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posted 05-03-2006 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madkrazy512   Click Here to Email madkrazy512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PR i am of brazilian nationality. was born there but i've lost most of the accent, or atleats no one can tell I am brazillian when i talk to them. I've lived in the boston area since i was like 7 so that's wat i sound like i guess but i do pronouciate my r's as in park or harvard ...hehe
and did u want a voice sample from me? i didn't know who you were talking about. If yound i guess i could do one. but liek my mic isn't the best in the world. so i coudl try with that and do a new one when I'm at my uncle's house some weekend. He's got a nice mic. well yeah there ya go.

and yeah sunflash i remember those days of the voice change seems liek only last year... oh wait! it was heheheh. i know how u feel man.

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posted 05-03-2006 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunflash   Click Here to Email Sunflash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got to playing around wit it, and got a sample terrain loaded into Anim8or, with texture and all. Here's a sample image:

-Sunflash

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Mr.Smeagol
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posted 05-04-2006 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.Smeagol   Click Here to Email Mr.Smeagol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sunflash, can you post link to larger image or send a sample terrain to me somehow ?
Yay ! I got gmail ! mario.kotlar@gmail.com
And I can reccomend 3 persons, 1 left now, I thought maybe PR_7 or MP3D ? Or someone else ? then he/she gets 3 persons to reccomend and can reccomend some other anim8or movie project members, If you guys would like to have it

I'll work on a gameboy and mic as soon as I can!

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posted 05-04-2006 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MimoMovieMaker   Click Here to Email MimoMovieMaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just read the other thread (Anim8or Movie Progress) and after reading the 'putting people's vioces on the internet thing I thought I should bring this up. In any credits or refrenses to actors names in the movie or if we had a movie website would people be comfatable in using their real names or for example J. Bloggs becuase I think using username wouldn't look good especialy in the end credits of the movie. I realise we are a long way of all the credits n stauff so i thought i'd bring it up now rather than later :-)!

MIMO

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posted 05-04-2006 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madkrazy512   Click Here to Email madkrazy512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow mr.smeagel i didnt know u were looking for gmail b4 this i could sent u an invite. i have a abotu 97 left right now. so anyone who wants one just ask. it wont b a problem at all.

and thx for fixing up my models. i guess if was a better moddeler they wouldn't need fixing. ill work on my skills. get them brushed up and perfected.

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