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Sunflash Junior Member	posted 05-04-2006 02:25 PM Smeagol, here is a sample .An8 project: http://multiterra.mooload.com/file.php?file=files/040506/1146775181/Terrain+Sample.rar The texture settings are as good as I could get them in this project. I don't exactly know how each setting works, so it might not look it's best -Sunflash P.S. MIMO, we will probably do something like Sunflash (AKA Andrew Craswell) for example. I think it will look fine. We don't want people to think that this is some corporation making this film, we just want to show the power of Anim8or... and have some fun [This message has been edited by Sunflash (edited 05-04-2006).] [This message has been edited by Sunflash (edited 05-04-2006).] IP: Logged
theater375 Junior Member	posted 05-04-2006 03:09 PM quote: Originally posted by MimoMovieMaker: I just read the other thread (Anim8or Movie Progress) and after reading the 'putting people's vioces on the internet thing I thought I should bring this up. In any credits or refrenses to actors names in the movie or if we had a movie website would people be comfatable in using their real names or for example J. Bloggs becuase I think using username wouldn't look good especialy in the end credits of the movie. I realise we are a long way of all the credits n stauff so i thought i'd bring it up now rather than later :-)! MIMO I think that if someone, such as myself, is uncomfortable with posting their name on the internet, they could come up with an alias for the movie, a fake name. That way it would look natural, but not reveal any personal information. IP: Logged
madkrazy512 Junior Member	posted 05-04-2006 04:29 PM theater, thats an awsome idea. i didnt even think of that. i will probably do that. IP: Logged
Mr.Smeagol Junior Member	posted 05-04-2006 05:29 PM I fixed the gameboy and the microphone madcrazy. I uploaded it on yahoo screenshot: Well... about that supertexture (or whatever it was called ), this is how it looks in right proportions... So... I think it's maybe too blurry... Anybody has any idea how to fix that ? Well... about the false name idea - I say It's up to you to choose a name for yourselfs for this project, but I think I'll stick to my real name a bitt off topic: But madcrazy how can you have 97 invites left ? I thought there is only 3 avaliable in gmail ... And everybody forgot about this !!! PR_7 ? and where is MP3D ? This is for tree texture settings: quote: Originaly posted by: Mr.Sme... well... myself.. here is 1MB 6 HQ pics so you can see the bumpmap interact with specular, rough & shading... so tell me which one you like best... (each pic has name of the settings) --->Download the pics zip 1MB<--- I'll keep doing other models & stuff... And PR_7, you just notify us when it's fine to start doing voiceacting / when script is 100% finished and double/triple/checked lol ! [This message has been edited by Mr.Smeagol (edited 05-04-2006).] IP: Logged
Sunflash Junior Member	posted 05-04-2006 06:08 PM quote: Originally posted by madkrazy512: theater, thats an awsome idea. i didnt even think of that. i will probably do that. Lol, it isn't like anybody actually reads the credits anyway Smeagol, try this texture. Just replace it with the old one: http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/7ae4dbd1da.jpg There pobably isn't any difference, and if not, then I think it's a problem with the textures I'm useing. It isn't a matter of them being streated to much. Oh yeah, and about those images, I like the nospec.jpg one the best, considering that it's supposed to be a dark forest. It just gives you the right feeling. -Sunflash [This message has been edited by Sunflash (edited 05-04-2006).] IP: Logged
MP3D Member	posted 05-04-2006 06:14 PM we can record the dialog all at one time.How do you ask....Well Iam glad you aked me how. So let me tell you... We can use Yahoo IM .we can use the phone line it offers for free and I can record it live via a software proggy i have. The hard thing we will need to do is determine what time this can be done. Because we all live in diffrent time zones....thats the only draw back to this...But I think it would be the best way ...that way the script is read in a natural way and there are no gaps in the lines..and we can hear each emtion the other acts out and then responed to the line better..whatcha think????? Mr.Smeagol I am still here iam realy busy trying to get my porject ready for my client to use..Its hard to make a liveing doing 3-D but it can be done...cool.....Once I finish this project up I will have more time to work on the movie..cool... MP3D [This message has been edited by MP3D (edited 05-04-2006).] IP: Logged
madkrazy512 Junior Member	posted 05-04-2006 06:24 PM mr. smeagel thx for fixing up my mic and lol i just remebered i didn't include the texture for the top part of the mic, and the gameboy too. i havn't looked at the models yet but im sure their good and idk how i hav that many ive been with gmail for over a year now so they just add up after awhile. i had liek 100 but i invited 3 people so now ihav 97 to give out to anyone and anythign who wants IP: Logged
benney Junior Member	posted 05-04-2006 11:25 PM quote: Originally posted by MP3D: we can record the dialog all at one time.How do you ask....Well Iam glad you aked me how. So let me tell you... We can use Yahoo IM .we can use the phone line it offers for free and I can record it live via a software proggy i have. The hard thing we will need to do is determine what time this can be done. Because we all live in diffrent time zones....thats the only draw back to this...But I think it would be the best way ...that way the script is read in a natural way and there are no gaps in the lines..and we can hear each emtion the other acts out and then responed to the line better..whatcha think???? Sorry MP3D but I think you're dreaming. Also, Have you actually though about the quality of the audio recording, yes we can edit it but we're not miracle workers. You can't be serious! IP: Logged
Sunflash Junior Member	posted 05-05-2006 12:46 AM I don't know if it's possible, but can you apply animated textures (images that contain frames/animated .GIF files/multiple images). But if it is, then here's a texture we can use. Here's a download link to the texture, and a sample .EXE of it being animated. http://multiterra.mooload.com/file.php?file=files/050506/1146811690/Water+Sample.rar IP: Logged
Mr.Smeagol Junior Member	posted 05-05-2006 02:52 AM quote: Originally posted by benney: Sorry MP3D but I think you're dreaming. Also, Have you actually though about the quality of the audio recording, yes we can edit it but we're not miracle workers. You can't be serious! MP3D - is it you or someone stole your account name and password ?.... (just kidding ) Or maybe you'r kidding with us... lol That's the most IMOPOSIBLE thing ever... and everything else benney said... quote: ..Its hard to make a liveing doing 3-D but it can be done...cool..... Yay ! yihaa... any hints on how you managed it ? Madcrazy - check out the models - I realised you didnt give me the "bumps" texture so I made a new one... it was faster that way... Anim8or doesn't support anim8ed textures but they can be imitated... but it's veeery hard. [This message has been edited by Mr.Smeagol (edited 05-05-2006).] IP: Logged
Dark Saruman Junior Member	posted 05-05-2006 02:53 AM OK pr_7...I'll work on that IP: Logged
startrekfan002 Junior Member	posted 05-05-2006 03:22 AM i recently found on DAZ a model for a fairytale tower - its for free this week. If someone of you knows how to work with DAZ and can import the model to anim8or, here is the link: http://www.daz3d.com/shop.php?op=itemdetails&item=4154 maybe it could be of use for the movie. IP: Logged
madkrazy512 Junior Member	posted 05-05-2006 04:45 AM lol yup sry about that mr.smeagel but ur bump was better than wat i was using anyway. IP: Logged
Mr.Smeagol Junior Member	posted 05-05-2006 05:08 AM no problem madcrazy it only took me 20 seconds (or less) to make that texture... Startrekfan - I don't think we should use other peaple models - we should have everything we have original And Startrekfan heve you seen the video tutorial I made for you on that bridge ? quote: Lol, it isn't like anybody actually reads the credits anyway Smeagol, try this texture. Just replace it with the old one: That's why we agreed that credits would be 3D anim8ed and cool looking And that's the sam texture you gave it to me already - it looks fine from normal distance but it looks blury only on totaly close (as in the screenshot I made) - but we are gonna have the scene setup like that - from close - in real proportions... Can T.Ed export that texture in higher res maybe? [This message has been edited by Mr.Smeagol (edited 05-05-2006).] IP: Logged
MP3D Member	posted 05-05-2006 08:13 AM Hmm. Thats pretty sad how some people are closed minded. If recording sound thru Yahoo IM wouldnt work then I wouldnt of said anything. Dont say something wont work unless you have tried to see if it realy doesnt. No matter how the sound is recorded it will still need to be put thru filters. I assume that most people doing voice overs are useing a realy cheap mic.(thats fine).So the quality will be lacking.(Thats fine too.Those of us who know something about sound can fix that). I have been working with PC based sound/music for a LONG time. So when I say something about sound you can beat it can be done or I have been there and done that... Mr.Smeagol, My first paying job came from this site.My client was browseing around forums looking for a 3D artist.He then posted a topic here and we made contact. From there it snow balled. And i still have alot of work. I wont be around for awhile so.Good luck with the movie.I have to get my clients project complete. You can go here if you want and see my first job. www.commlogix.com .hes the little guy on the front page. His name is Moe . Animated textures are easy when you use terranim8or.its a little more work but they can also be assign to a mesh too. MP3D IP: Logged
Sunflash Junior Member	posted 05-05-2006 12:37 PM quote: Originally posted by Mr.Smeagol: Can T.Ed export that texture in higher res maybe? Yeah, you can do it any size you want (within resenable limits). But everytime I export the texture, it makes it the same Res. Odd. I'll look into it. Does anyone know whee I can find a download to Tarrenim8or or watever it's called? If I can get it, then I'll look into the water texture for the river. -Sunflash EDIT: Nevermind, I found it. Now I have to learn how to use it [This message has been edited by Sunflash (edited 05-05-2006).] IP: Logged
madkrazy512 Junior Member	posted 05-05-2006 02:03 PM quote: Originally posted by Mr.Smeagol: [B]no problem madcrazy it only took me 20 seconds (or less) to make that texture... oh ok then lol thx anyway, now i gotta find soemthing else to model and hopefully i wont mess it up to much IP: Logged
benney Junior Member	posted 05-05-2006 02:31 PM quote: Originally posted by MP3D: Hmm. Thats pretty sad how some people are closed minded. If recording sound thru Yahoo IM wouldnt work then I wouldnt of said anything. Dont say something wont work unless you have tried to see if it realy doesnt. No matter how the sound is recorded it will still need to be put thru filters. I assume that most people doing voice overs are useing a realy cheap mic.(thats fine).So the quality will be lacking.(Thats fine too.Those of us who know something about sound can fix that). I have been working with PC based sound/music for a LONG time. So when I say something about sound you can beat it can be done or I have been there and done that... Sorry MP3D, but I am not being "Closed Minded" just honest. Yes their mic's will create a reduction in quality but so will sending it via Yahoo IM and so doubling the problem. Also there is the problem with time delay and trying to get everyone running at exactly the same time, it just won't happen. Let me put it this way... How do you think the proffesional actors do it, they do it one scene at a time and then the audio man cuts and splices the audio into a collaborative sequence (half of the time the person they are supposed to be talking to isn't even there). The only way you can convince me that the idea will work is to prove it, after all I have heard recordings of people chatting using yahoo IM and similar devices and they are audibul but no where near the quality required for what we need. Why spend all the time getting the best animation we can only to ruin it with a mediocre audio track. It would be great if it could be done but I can't see it myself. Sorry? IP: Logged
startrekfan002 Junior Member	posted 05-06-2006 04:36 AM sorry mr.smeagol, i totally forgot to mention your tut! it certainly helped me to understand the knife tool can be used in more ways, its real good! you should keep this up for others! (btw, do you mind i post your tutorials -all- on my website? some kids in my school class like to work with anim8or too and they can use some help) IP: Logged
MimoMovieMaker Junior Member	posted 05-06-2006 06:47 AM Yes fake aliases and including user names is a good idea! IP: Logged
madkrazy512 Junior Member	posted 05-06-2006 08:52 AM well this is the model I've been working on. I don't think it's done. But, I'm posting it to see if you guys have any idea to make it better. IP: Logged
Sunflash Junior Member	posted 05-06-2006 08:54 AM It would look better with a texture. But I'm sure you know that:-) IP: Logged
madkrazy512 Junior Member	posted 05-06-2006 11:20 AM well yeah, but im no good with textures, so any one who could do it for me would be appreciated very much so. IP: Logged
Sunflash Junior Member	posted 05-06-2006 01:29 PM I know what it needs! It needs a tripod thing-uh-muh-jigy! Just like the real news crew use! IP: Logged
madkrazy512 Junior Member	posted 05-06-2006 02:55 PM lol yeah i know i am goign to add that. as i said b4 it is not done yet. i also need the hand strap and here is that finished version. with awful texture but anyway. this could be used by the camera man in the cave. If you want I guess i could model a tripod for the reporters who interview the king after the princess is kidnapped [This message has been edited by madkrazy512 (edited 05-06-2006).] [This message has been edited by madkrazy512 (edited 05-06-2006).] [This message has been edited by madkrazy512 (edited 05-06-2006).] IP: Logged
Sunflash Junior Member	posted 05-06-2006 11:49 PM Madkrazy512, the cameras looking spiffy! Nice job Smeogol, I looked into the terrains image Res, no matter what I set it to export as, it would export as 1024x1024. So I posted on the products home page, and the designer of the software said he would look into it. A while latewr he came back and said he found a glitch in the code (dun dun dun dun!). So anyways, he told he how to temporarily fix it, it takes editing a file, but thats no biggy. Here's a texture with twixe the Res (2048x2048). Rendering now...........................hmmm, this might take a while...................... Umm, yeah, taking FOREVER! I'll post the texture when it's rendered... IP: Logged
Mr.Smeagol Junior Member	posted 05-07-2006 04:46 PM quote: (btw, do you mind i post your tutorials -all- on my website? some kids in my school class like to work with anim8or too and they can use some help) Offcourse I don't mind (as long as the credits for tut's are mine ) , thx for letting me know ! And thx for spreading my tuts ! I'm very happy couse of that ! cool... madkrazy - NICE MODEL ! Is the yellow part texture or transparent glass + 3D roll of film inside it? The objective (if it is called like that - the front cone part) is a little to much low poly - try making it double higher poly, - then it would be perfect quote: Rendering now...........................hmmm, this might take a while...................... Umm, yeah, taking FOREVER! lol ! Ok, I'm just gonna wait forever then.... hehe ...I think 2048x2048 will be just what we need! Edit: MP3D - well ... sory for being close minded... Indeed I gave it some thought.... It would be very nice... but it's too tricky to pull it all together... different timezones - and everybody with finding free time for everybody in the same time, with no one in the house/room (couse of background noise)... It would be possible if 1. we ain't aiming for better quality than that 2. we had like 3 characters... Maybe the idea is worth a try ? .... maybe to try to do one scene ? [This message has been edited by Mr.Smeagol (edited 05-07-2006).] IP: Logged
madkrazy512 Junior Member	posted 05-07-2006 05:44 PM mr.smeagel its just a tranparent material on the face of the model to see inside and in the inside i stuck a roll of film to make like it actually does soemthing it might me animatable to spin while it films. ofcourse i have no idea how that done but just a thought. and sure ill work on the objective r w/e it may b actually called thx for the compliment i also added a ~light on the camera but wat i did is basically just put a white material on it not actually light. i think the real light would be done durign the animation if i am correct well mayb i'll post a pic to show everyone. EDIT: ok here it is, with the light and the objective with the double faces just for u mr.smeagel oh and here is the wireframe incase anyone wants it the mic, the lens in front, and the roll of fim or all different objects. as soon as I;m done and satisfied with the model i will group them all. unless we do want to animate the roll then i coudl leave that seperate [This message has been edited by madkrazy512 (edited 05-07-2006).] IP: Logged
P_R7 Junior Member	posted 05-07-2006 08:36 PM I don't have time to respond to everything. So.. Mp3D's idea sounded great, live sessions are usually better. I was thinking about it a little myself, but some people might not even have a fast enough connection for it to work. Me. Sorry. Maybe each person could have Audacity run in the background on their own computer so we don't lose quality going over the net. quote: we can use the phone line it offers for free... Real phone line or VoIP? The camera's looking good. Needs a bit more in texturing though, maybe those dimples they put on handgrips, complicated buttons, etc. You could animate the film spinning with a figure, it would be the easiest way. As for aliases, we agreed earlier we would do the screen name and real name, though no one has to put up their real name. I know we have two castle models, but which one of them is the castle of Glum? Glum seems to be a small drab country, so I was thinking a nice small castle along the lines of Chateau Aigle... http://www.picswiss.ch/Waadt/VD-28-4.html http://www.picswiss.ch/Waadt/VD-28-2.html Plenty more pics on Google. My little brother suggested for a title, "The Remarkable Disappearance of Prince Charlie's Pimples" or "The Miraculous Healing of Prince Charlie's Zits" or soemthing along that line. I like it but I'm not sure if it would attract people to download it and see what it is, not snappy enough if you know what I mean. Any comments? IP: Logged
Maximus Bradley Junior Member	posted 05-08-2006 07:34 AM Can I help with the movie? I'm new to Anim8or and I can't really help with the animation, but I do have a microphone and I can help edit the video by pointing out scenes which need improvement. BTW, for the title use a short word or maybe 2 which sound exiting but don't give too much away. Remember the kind of names which proffesional 3D movies are named with, such as Shrek, Ice Age, and Madagascar. edit: try something like "The Adventures of Prince Charles" or something. I know it's against my general movie naming rule but (almost) all rules have exeptions. -Maximus Bradley- [This message has been edited by Maximus Bradley (edited 05-08-2006).] IP: Logged
MimoMovieMaker Junior Member	posted 05-08-2006 09:14 AM Just thought you guys might be interested: I have just set-up a Tutorial forums called Tutorials4All. It basicly is there for people to post tutorials on anything. There is a section on anim8or if you wanted to post anything on that! Hopefully users will build, so your tutorial will be seen! http://www.tutorials4all.editboard.com Thanks, Mimo IP: Logged
startrekfan002 Junior Member	posted 05-08-2006 01:50 PM i made a voice-sample too, but i'm kinda shy about my (bad) voice, so i did a voice which was not recognizable as my own voice, so i took wolf. (if you guys need anyone to do wolf... ) these are the lines: "I'm a wolf!" "I'm a big, ferocious, wolf! WOOF!" (i changed woof into miauw" "Like, duuuhh" "There goes the steering" i hope my samples are correct, tell me what to change. (sorry about the shyness , i dont dare to do other voice...) IP: Logged
startrekfan002 Junior Member	posted 05-08-2006 01:53 PM i made a voice-sample too, but i'm kinda shy about my (bad) voice, so i did a voice which was not recognizable as my own voice, so i took wolf. (if you guys need anyone to do wolf... ) these are the lines: "I'm a wolf!" "I'm a big, ferocious, wolf! WOOF!" (i changed woof into miauw" "Like, duuuhh" "There goes the steering" http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/MJVfRDBH03luhtNAy7lrJx74i31ixsek3mULq7S5tnQST82FPx95rzFrWwQaCg4bfVpbz2yAGCPVCMnFX3wBNZwDHi6RENnoDkLY2Sk/Audio%20Clips/wolf.mp3 its also on an8moviezone. i hope my samples are correct, tell me what to change. (sorry about the shyness , i dont dare to do other voice...) IP: Logged
madkrazy512 Junior Member	posted 05-08-2006 04:11 PM i'm glad everyone likes the camera, ofcours ei do need soemone desperatly to texture it well. I don't care what you do to it. just make it look good oh and here is the tripod i modeled for it IP: Logged
Codfish2006 Junior Member	posted 05-08-2006 06:15 PM Hi everyone srry i've been away fro mthe comp for a while i got a new game on my other pc so i got a little addicted... anyways i just uploaded the fallen tree file to the yahoo site take a look and give me some hints/tips, thanks. Codfish IP: Logged
madkrazy512 Junior Member	posted 05-08-2006 07:43 PM codfish welcome bak nice model but would u post the texture for it on the yahoo group so we can see it with the texture and apreciate your work alittle bit more :P i've decided i'm gona take things into my own hands and just read some texturing tutorials and texture my camera myself ill have more satisfaction of a job well done that way. well off to the handy dandy google IP: Logged
P_R7 Junior Member	posted 05-08-2006 08:30 PM Texturing tip, madcrazy: If you have some kind of program with layers or objects, put the original map on a multipyly layer and paint under it. Then save it as a layered format, then hide the map and save as jpg. Welcome back Codfish! Startrek fan, first, the clip is hard to hear. Second, why did you change the woof to meow? Third, it sounds to me like you're a teenager with a low voice trying to pitch it higher, it might be better to have a younger actor play wolf. You sound like a puppet or something right now, try a different voice. I don't like the two lines "Well, duhh" and "there goes the steering" that way. "there goes the steering" should be more in the tone of voice of "oops, heh heh. There goes the steering. " As he thinks "oh boy, I did it. He's mad at me" "well Duh" is sarcastic, but it should be more drawn out... it's hard to explain. Your English sounds good though, don't be embarrassed to let us hear your normal voice, you could email it just to me and Benney and MP3D if you prefer. I'm sorry to be so critical. IP: Logged
Mr.Smeagol Junior Member	posted 05-09-2006 06:55 AM for the movie title... quote: I like it but I'm not sure if it would attract people to download it and see what it is, not snappy enough if you know what I mean. Any comments? Yea I know exactly what you mean... quote: BTW, for the title use a short word or maybe 2 which sound exiting but don't give too much away. Remember the kind of names which proffesional 3D movies are named with, such as Shrek, Ice Age, and Madagascar. You totaly got the point there... I think so too.. quote: Can I help with the movie? I'm new to Anim8or and I can't really help with the animation, but I do have a microphone and I can help edit the video by pointing out scenes which need improvement. yea offcourse you can help, any kind of help is apriciated quote: I have just set-up a Tutorial forums called Tutorials4All. It basicly is there for people to post tutorials on anything. There is a section on anim8or if you wanted to post anything on that! Hopefully users will build, so your tutorial will be seen! Feel free to put all my tutorials there... or should I put them ?... and how do you intend to keep the tutorials on forum ? as stickys ? well... after some time it would be hard to find the tutorial you'r searching for... when there will be many tutorials... that's cool anyway - I bookmarked it emediately.. quote: i made a voice-sample too, but i'm kinda shy about my (bad) voice, so i did a voice which was not recognizable as my own voice, so i took wolf. (if you guys need anyone to do wolf... ) Oh common... It's not like rest of us are all hollywood voice actors with beautifull voices... my voice sucks if you ask me... so I asked mp3d and benney to change it in the final movie - but I think it's best to do it in your real voice - that way it will look more natural, only the accents and emotions CAN'T be done in audio editing software... so that's the only thing for us, voice actors, to vorry about. quote: Originally posted by madkrazy512: oh and here is the tripod i modeled for it MY EYES ! MY BEAUTIFUL EYES ! ...anti aliasing.... ...always use bicubic anti aliasing... But I do like the tripod Codfish - can you upload the texture so we can see it with the texture ? - it needs few uv maping/texturing fixes i guess - it needs some optimizing - or better - use the polys to create more unregular shape - so it looks more natural. Just curious - which game codfish? quote: i've decided i'm gona take things into my own hands and just read some texturing tutorials and texture my camera myself ill have more satisfaction of a job well done that way. ... well nice!!.... I'll help you with any texture you want. Yea and PR_7, you are very critical lol, but that's ok... /EDIT : WOW ! now that's a VERY BIG post! [This message has been edited by Mr.Smeagol (edited 05-09-2006).] IP: Logged
MimoMovieMaker Junior Member	posted 05-09-2006 09:04 AM Mr Smeagle, If you would post your tutorials in any of the sections it would be most appreciated! (Registration is quik and easy and I could do with posting the user numbers). As for your "will get to many tutorial" thing, what I have decided is to only put forums up for programmes that I think are 'good' (depending on ease of use icluding UI, functionality, things like that). For all other software there is an 'Other' forum for each section! Please post tour tuts folks! IP: Logged
P_R7 Junior Member	posted 05-09-2006 01:28 PM Better to be critical and get a good movie than be false polite and get a lousy one, eh? If I am critical to anybody, it's nothing personal though. Nice site Mimo, could you make a tutorial on how to use transparency maps in ZS4? I gather it's possible but I'm not sure how. There's a typo under Cubase, BTW. "MUsic Creator From Steinberg" The u is capitalized. [This message has been edited by P_R7 (edited 05-09-2006).] IP: Logged

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