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startrekfan001 Junior Member	posted 01-12-2006 07:06 AM Thanks, good you like it. Also, benney, your music should be somewhat adapted if we're takin my castle. Cause you can see that the towers are VERY high and big, so maybe you could add some panting to your music, cause the character has to go all the way up.... and its exhausted at the end of all that millions of stairs IP: Logged
anim8ordude2005 Junior Member	posted 01-12-2006 07:08 AM Hi everyone. (1) where can i find the script for this movie so i can start modelling stuff. (2) How do people think my landscape: should be changed to fit in with the movie?? anim8ordude P.S Does anyone have a nicer landscape texture?? [This message has been edited by anim8ordude2005 (edited 01-12-2006).] IP: Logged
startrekfan001 Junior Member	posted 01-12-2006 07:12 AM The landscape looks great! just try to make some environment, around this part of the landscape (e.g. mountains, or desert) and make that bridge reeeeaaaally thin. (since i hope we use my castle, got no answer to that yet but then my castle is SO enourmous, that your bridge is VERY thic compared to that, but you should first wait until we know which models are gonna be used and don't forget about this environment, ey? also, try to find some tree pics and tuts. I don't think they're ugly, they could just need some work. IP: Logged
benney Junior Member	posted 01-12-2006 07:58 AM quote: Originally posted by startrekfan001: Thanks, good you like it. Also, benney, your music should be somewhat adapted if we're takin my castle. Cause you can see that the towers are VERY high and big, so maybe you could add some panting to your music, cause the character has to go all the way up.... and its exhausted at the end of all that millions of stairs The soundtrack has him walking from the outside to the inside so he could be walking across the top of the wall (as most BIG castles have wall walks) to get to the dark tower. BTW - why don't you guys create the setup so that one side of the castle has mountains directly towering over it in the background. This way one of the towers is constantly in the shade hence giving it the name "The Dark Tower" and it then becomes the reason why these two meet there, because it is difficult to see from a distance who enters and leaves and so their indentity is hidden from anyone who just happens to look in that direction (just an idea?) IP: Logged
benney Junior Member	posted 01-12-2006 08:04 AM You can find the scripts (3 edited versions so far) at the group site. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnimatorMovieZone/ IP: Logged
startrekfan001 Junior Member	posted 01-12-2006 08:13 AM Ah, great. I'm writing one myself, so i suggest everyone can post scripts until the 20th if january and until the 22th we vote, after that we have our final script. to take away any confusion on what must be done edit: i have just uploaded my castle to the An8Zone. edit: i have just uploaded my script to the An8Zone. You might find my script a bit short, but i think its better if we just make a short movie as practise first. edit: I also made sure that there is an open ending, which leaves the battle with the robots etc. for the next movie, when we have experience and comment from other people and when we have learned from our mistakes. That'll make our 2nd movie better.(whoops, i'm overreacting. IS there gonna be a 2nd movie????) [This message has been edited by startrekfan001 (edited 01-12-2006).] [This message has been edited by startrekfan001 (edited 01-12-2006).] [This message has been edited by startrekfan001 (edited 01-12-2006).] IP: Logged
P_R7 Junior Member	posted 01-12-2006 12:59 PM My dad has informed me that my script is not "visual" enough, so I'm going into seclusion to have visions... And also to think of an ending!!! arrgh! IP: Logged
benney Junior Member	posted 01-12-2006 02:31 PM quote: Originally posted by P_R7: My dad has informed me that my script is not "visual" enough, so I'm going into seclusion to have visions... And also to think of an ending!!! arrgh! A good idea is to do what I do when I create my music. Develop one single part first and then the rest will develop from that part. This means if you for example:- Create the very begining of the film first and get that part right (don't forget to read the other submitted scripts because these will give you more ideas. Use every resource you can for ideas, even images from other members, music and so on. develop that one part and get it right, then you will find that whilst you were constructing that part the next part will already be building up in your head. This is why I have been doing nothing but working on the 'dark tower' music section because i can see the image as the intro to the film. Imagine this:- The screen is black with the titles roling through then slowly the screen lightens up along with the sound increasing in volume revealing a wet noisy thundery day and you see an image walking across a 'wall walk' of a very big castle, You see ahead the silouette of giant mountains as you follow the darkend sillouette of the walking figure. As he continies you can see faintly the 'Dark Tower' coming into view, with the occasional dragon like bird screem resonating through the air as they go about their daily activities regardless. Finaly the silloutted figure arrives at the tower's door, and with a squeek and bang he opens it to step through then close it behind him. Now he is in the tower and the thunder is quieter now but echoing slightly in the tower room. As the lighting flashes light through the small arc window you see anouther figure and then the plan commences. just an idea and you can take the credit if you wish LOL BTW - Try listening to the music I have created whilst reading this and it might give you even more odeas. [This message has been edited by benney (edited 01-12-2006).] IP: Logged
Codfish Junior Member	posted 01-12-2006 02:45 PM I still haven't got a reply on if we are using my r2 d2 in the movie... I have also made a fireplace(brick) that i thought could go in one of the rooms in the FIRST movie.I will post it soon. Also P_R7 my mum is an author and I will get her to review the script and I will post her thoughts about editing(maybe). I take it we are using P_R7's script for the first movie. IP: Logged
benney Junior Member	posted 01-12-2006 03:11 PM quote: Originally posted by Codfish: [B]I still haven't got a reply on if we are using my r2 d2 in the movie... B] I can't see why not Codfish. It is like all of us. we contribute different things for use within the film and at some point it may or may not get used. Afterall I myself have continuosly created and edited my piece of music for the 'Dark tower' but no one has said whether or not it will be used. But I look at it this way. If it doesn't get used in this film there are always future films that It could be used in. So please don't get disheartened because we are all in the same predicament and all share the same hope. Also remember that the group is not only for this film but any future productions that be developed using anim8or so there is always a chance. IP: Logged
P_R7 Junior Member	posted 01-12-2006 06:42 PM I like your idea benney! I didn't really put much thought into an intro to that scene, and that would work great! And I do like the music, except maybe the ending. Did you look at the ugly amiden theme song I sent you? Codfish: What Benney said. The script (if we use it) is still going through changes. I might put in r2, i might not. Probably not. But i'm sure something you make WILL be in the movie, probably several somethings. My mon is a proofreader. Seriously. What an incredible coincidence, eh? Everybody- start thinking, doodling, sketching, and eventulally, modeling environments! I have some concept art in my photo album on the An8MovieZone, but I can't think of all the details of the scene! We need: Tower interior Throne room Scenery for exterior of castle Dark forest plains river wasta other forest Dragons cave, int. and ext. etc. Thanks! IP: Logged
benzjie Junior Member	posted 01-12-2006 10:34 PM you're right.....let's go. And let's centralize this. MIght be easuer if we know whos will be doing what. E.g. so we don't get 5 castles and no king. My email is Benzjie@hotmail.com . Just tell me what you would like to do for the project. Then i'll make a list of people who want to work on this and place it on the forum. Good idea ? [This message has been edited by benzjie (edited 01-12-2006).] [This message has been edited by benzjie (edited 01-12-2006).] [This message has been edited by benzjie (edited 01-12-2006).] IP: Logged
benney Junior Member	posted 01-12-2006 10:43 PM quote: Originally posted by P_R7: I like your idea benney! I didn't really put much thought into an intro to that scene, and that would work great! And I do like the music, except maybe the ending. Did you look at the ugly amiden theme song I sent you? ! The music has no ending at the moment because that is where the two start chatting and so the volume drops and just litteraly hums whilst the conversation goes on. Then once the conversation is finished then the volume comes back up as they leave the tower. Regarding the ugly maiden theme song, do you know someone with a good voice and a professional 'Audio to PC' recording system. If so then i would suggest recording the vocal line and then this will give me a better idea of what you are thinking about. Personally, I would stay away from vocal tunes other wise you'll be giving yourself anouther battle on your hands and just stick to instrumentals for the first few films. That is just my opinion and I will the final decision up to you. IP: Logged
benney Junior Member	posted 01-12-2006 10:52 PM quote: Originally posted by benzjie: you're right.....let's go. And let's centralize this. MIght be easuer if we know whos will be doing what. E.g. so we don;t get 5 castles and no king. My email is Benzjie@hotmail.com . Just tell me what you would like to do for the project. Then i'll make a list of people who want to work on this and place it on the forum. Good idea ? Well you can gaurantee I am just gonna supply the music if you want to use it and maybe a few story board images (in real life I'm an artist with a severe love for music) of specifc scenes (I'm working on one for the 'Dark Tower scene'). IP: Logged
anim8ordude2005 Junior Member	posted 01-13-2006 01:54 AM I'm doing the dark forest, but i can't model good leaves, would it be ok if i left them bare?? And does anyone have some good bark textures?? if u do plz post them then i can use them . Oh, and i signed into the Yahoo group but I can't find the scripts can anyone help. Oh, and could everyone post what they've made so i know the "feel" of the movie anim8ordude IP: Logged
benney Junior Member	posted 01-13-2006 03:18 AM quote: Originally posted by anim8ordude2005: I'm doing the dark forest, but i can't model good leaves, would it be ok if i left them bare?? And does anyone have some good bark textures?? if u do plz post them then i can use them . Oh, and i signed into the Yahoo group but I can't find the scripts can anyone help. Oh, and could everyone post what they've made so i know the "feel" of the movie anim8ordude Bare trees would not create a dark forest, I'm sorry to say. However if we are in the mountains then conifers are relatively simple (I think?) and because they grow together they always create a dark forest (even during the summer) I will upload some bark images to the group site and you will also fing the script files in the 'Text files' section. Also you'll find most if not all submissions available on the group site. IP: Logged
startrekfan002 Junior Member	posted 01-13-2006 04:27 AM Okay, the brick fireplace might be of good use to put in just a random room, and then its activated with remote control. As extra joke . Further, i haven't gotten any reply on the suggestion that we vote which script we are going to use. Does everyone agree with that? Also, what's the dark forest gonna look like? just dead trees in the shadow of a mountain? Or a forest covered with huge trees and beneath them everything is dark and dead? IP: Logged
benney Junior Member	posted 01-13-2006 08:29 AM quote: Originally posted by startrekfan002: Okay, the brick fireplace might be of good use to put in just a random room, and then its activated with remote control. As extra joke . Further, i haven't gotten any reply on the suggestion that we vote which script we are going to use. Does everyone agree with that? Also, what's the dark forest gonna look like? just dead trees in the shadow of a mountain? Or a forest covered with huge trees and beneath them everything is dark and dead? In these kind of stories there is alway a 'Wise man' so I thought that the fireplace could be used there. Personaly I would think it would be a better idea to select from the various scripts certain ideas and characters and then build a final script one section at a time starting at the beginning. I picture a dark forest would be a forest with an air of fear. Trees growing close together and blocking out the light, so creating that darkness (not pitch black) just dark and cold with the accasional ray of light bursting through and the accasional sign of natural life. IP: Logged
P_R7 Junior Member	posted 01-13-2006 09:57 AM I was thinking to make that scene at night, with the trees being the kind that have big, scraggly, bare branches that look like arms trying to grab you- picture if you will a view looking up at the moon, bloked off by that kind of branches, and you can see what I mean. As for the music, Benney, i was thinking that you could give me a tune for it, and whoever plays the UM could sing it. Then you could do the music for it. Why not vocal music? Lip-syncing? or just syncing the music? Cause the camera isn't on her for most of it. I don't know what script we're using. I just went ahead and wrote mine because I didn't see any forthcoming, and y'all were working on objects without a clue whether they would be in the movie or not. Perhaps a vote would be a good idea. I think your script needs some written dialogue though, Startrekfan. I still need to work on scene descriptions for mine. By the way, there's some costume concepts in my album on the Zone. Pay no attention to my character concepts though. Just thinking on paper. IP: Logged
benney Junior Member	posted 01-13-2006 12:50 PM quote: Originally posted by P_R7: As for the music, Benney, i was thinking that you could give me a tune for it, and whoever plays the UM could sing it. Then you could do the music for it. Why not vocal music? Lip-syncing? or just syncing the music? Cause the camera isn't on her for most of it. I've just had an idea for the UM jingle. A sort of HipHop styled jingle IP: Logged
Codfish Junior Member	posted 01-13-2006 02:20 PM I vote we use P_R7 script becausae most of the modeling going on seems to be based around P_R7 scripts. Codfish IP: Logged
MP3D Member	posted 01-13-2006 04:45 PM anim8ordude2005,I dont think you would want to model all the leaves on a tree...first it would become very high poly and the more trees you add to a scene will slow everything down...trust me....So what you might want to think about doing is this...... . You could model some of the trees that will be clost to the camera but the ones in the far background use the method above..... Remember this folks>>> IF THE CAMERA WILL NOT SEE IT...DONT MODEL IT...cool... MP3D IP: Logged
startrekfan002 Junior Member	posted 01-14-2006 06:19 AM That is indeed a good idea, MP3D. But why not make different scene backgrounds and then apply them in a panorama background? That would eliminate our background meshes and thus speeding up the rendering. IP: Logged
P_R7 Junior Member	posted 01-14-2006 11:42 AM Sounds good. How about modeled trees in front, then low res trees, then transmapped "flats", then a background? And remeber, we don't need to have the same scene for all the shots in a segment, say, you want to have teh camera look up at the moon, then a shot of them riding through the forest... Just model the branches, slap them on a moon image, then cut to the scene with them riding. And remember, several trees does not a forest make. You basically have three layers- the real tall trees, some smaller trees, and a bunch of underbrush. And on the ground you have some fallen leaves, some twigs and small debris type stuff, and under that dirt with roots sticking up. You have all that, and THEN you have a realistic forest. [This message has been edited by P_R7 (edited 01-14-2006).] IP: Logged
Codfish Junior Member	posted 01-14-2006 11:52 AM I remember when I was in grade 5 i think it was, we learned about the forests and we learned about the four levels or w/e... under brush: ground(most animals found here) midle: middle area(nothing really here but trees) Top:Top most birds found here) Cannopy:top of the forest(roof type thing)(too high for birds to live) IP: Logged
startrekfan002 Junior Member	posted 01-14-2006 02:15 PM Okay, good ideas enough. Now we're still gonna need to organise things. We can't just keep adding ideas. at some point we must stop and go for 1 script, 1 idea. else we'll never end. I suggest: we point on one writer who will take the best part of all scripts that are send in before the 30th of january, and he will make 1 good script out of them. we all accept and follow that. i suggest we also re-organise task distribution. In the first month or months, we do only modeling. models to be done: Castle (i'm doing one) Humans, knight, king,ugly maiden, pretty maiden...... Forest (P_R7 and Codfish should do that toghether) Main terrains (the job for anim8ordude) cave (volunteers?) horse (volunteers?) vehicles (volunteers?) castle interiors (codfish started with a fireplace. want to continue on the rest?) If there is anything to add or someone knows better organisation, please respond and also vulunteer for the cave, horse and vehicle. edit: of course a dragon, too. i think i'm gonna make one. Yet, don't hesitate to make one yourself! [This message has been edited by startrekfan002 (edited 01-15-2006).] IP: Logged
Codfish Junior Member	posted 01-14-2006 03:12 PM I will gladly take on the role of finishing and making more castle interiors. I'll get working on it. I also accept the job of helping P-R7 with the forest. Is that okay with you P_R7? Codfish IP: Logged
Codfish Junior Member	posted 01-14-2006 03:21 PM Here is the Fire Place. Click the image to see it larger. [This message has been edited by Codfish (edited 01-14-2006).] IP: Logged
startrekfan002 Junior Member	posted 01-15-2006 07:28 AM Nice..... just one question: the fire looks like its a picture. Is it? cause it needs to be anim8ed in the movie. IP: Logged
Codfish Junior Member	posted 01-15-2006 08:34 AM like i said in earlier post i am still working on it (yes it is a pic)i am curently creating the flames. IP: Logged
startrekfan002 Junior Member	posted 01-15-2006 09:00 AM Ah great. IP: Logged
Codfish Junior Member	posted 01-15-2006 09:07 AM Oh yeah I am also working on making the Royal Bed and the Throne. I decided to make the bed in different shades of blue if you guys think the royal colours should be different then just say and I will change the colours. Codfish IP: Logged
P_R7 Junior Member	posted 01-15-2006 10:54 AM I don't think combining script is such a good idea... we would probably end up with a hodgepodge of ideas that don't go together or make sense at all... and doubtless no one at all would like how their part got put in. I think we should vote. I don't mind working on a forest, but I need to brush up on my [nonexistent] tree making skills. Codfish- let's do most of the underbrush with transmapped flats, and try to keep as much of the detail as possible in the textures. I'll start looking for tuts on making tree branches. As for the jobs list- I'm working on my script, storyboarding?, helping with the woods, and modeling props. And maybe some more concept art. IP: Logged
benney Junior Member	posted 01-15-2006 10:54 AM quote: Originally posted by Codfish: Oh yeah I am also working on making the Royal Bed Codfish Just don't forget to tuck the sheets in. I hear that royals are so and so's for that (giggle) IP: Logged
P_R7 Junior Member	posted 01-15-2006 11:54 AM Wait... where are we using a bed? IP: Logged
startrekfan002 Junior Member	posted 01-15-2006 11:57 AM In the part where the Ugly maiden sleeps. also, i was actually thinkin..... you say you have no skills on making forest. why not let MP3D help too then? MP3D seems to have good ideas on how to make trees. edit: okay, now we'll vote again. input date is still 20th and voting time 20th to 22th? i hope everyone agrees this time, else we'll end up in one big forum fight and no movie [This message has been edited by startrekfan002 (edited 01-15-2006).] IP: Logged
Codfish Junior Member	posted 01-15-2006 01:24 PM here is the fireplace with anim8able fire ( decided to make it look like it is very high tech)(i put a fake log in front of 3 fire jets) IP: Logged
MP3D Member	posted 01-15-2006 04:24 PM startrekfan002,Iam honered that you want me help in the movie.Right now Iam very busy working on a project for a buisness..I have been useing Anim8or for a little over 2 years..I have seen many people come and go..Many attemps at a community movie..But they never work out..I hope this one is diffrent..everyone here looks like they want to help in makeing it..But if you want it to secceed..You need to take the bull by the horns and tell the modelers what they will model...and have plan when they should ahve them finished...only give one item to one person when they are finished give them the next one..this keeps things rolling and the modeler stays focused on the project... I think you should use P_R7 script...use benney's skills in music.. And everyone else model... startrekfan002 start handing out assignments just as I said above...you will see how fast the movie will be completed... Cofish,the fire place looks good....But the fire needs alot of work....Terranim8or make's realy nice fire..And it does all the hard work for you.... Use all the resources you can find folks..Terranim8or is the most important tool you can have along side of Anim8or... As for makeing the terran...There is a tutorial on my website showing you how to create a landscape...in 3 easy steps...follow it,learn it...it will save you time....and here is a way to make Grass useing the same method as above.... ... When i see something I can help on I will post a link to a website that will teach you how to do something or I will post a picture of a method ...cool.... Good luck everyone.. MP3D IP: Logged
Codfish Junior Member	posted 01-15-2006 05:46 PM I agree with MP3D we should use P_R7 script. IP: Logged
benney Junior Member	posted 01-16-2006 12:37 AM quote: Originally posted by Codfish: I agree with MP3D we should use P_R7 script. I agree aswell. IP: Logged

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