Sorry about the sabre Mr. Smeagol, but I bleieve it is a trademark of Lucasfilms, [though they may not mind in a not-for-profit film) and it seems uncreative to use somebody elses idea anyway.

STfan, what are you talking about?

Sorry about putting my concept in the wrong folder.

np 4 lightsaber... i removed it from group files.
But there is something I don't get - there is supposed to be 11 of us in the group - and poll was runing for 4 days - and only 3 votes...???

And another thing - do you all guys have somethig to model? Everyone of us should be assigned for a moddel he choses... And i got the feel I'm the only one modeling right now... or am I wrong?

startrekfan... no, I also dont know what you mean...

oh and Benney, Codfish & PR_7 -it would be good that you zip/compress your models when you upload them - that way they take MUCH less memory and you upload them faster and I download them faster and PR_7 - it would be good if each texture is in zip folder of the model that it belongs to - that wa it's much simpler to download it and upload it. And you can see which texture belong to which model.

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oh and Benney, Codfish & PR_7 -it would be good that you zip/compress your models when you upload them .

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http://www.zipgenius.it/index_eng.htm ...

Benny if you need any help on the sound track let me know and I will help...My recording studio is at your fingure tips..cool...

Lets show this community and .org that this movie will be completed...

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Originally posted by MP3D:

Benny if you need any help on the sound track let me know and I will help...My recording studio is at your fingure tips..cool...
MP3D

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Thanks for the offer and I think what would be a good idea to save upload/download time is if ww pass each other MIDI versions of our ideas to create and extend the ideas further. We don't need to use this forum or the group site. Just email the MIDI's direct to each other. Here's my email- Homesequencers@ntlworld.com and let's see/hear what the two combined efforts can create. What do you think?
BTW - I can run in either GM or standard GS Format as all my gear (Hardware and software) is essntialy roland based.

Here is my famous "how to post pics on forum" tutorial : (made by me )

1. Click on http://www.imageshack.us/
2. Click on "browse" button in that page
3. Find the locaton of your picture and click "open"
4. Click on "host it!"
5. Wait for time needed to upload your picture, then new window should pop-up.
(time needed depends on your internet connection. for egzample: 50 kb pic on ordinary 56k-modem should take about 10 sec at most. )
6. You get 8 lines with some "adresses"
-if you wish to have a hiperlinking thumbnail on forum here, you copy the text/adress left of "Thumbnail for forums (1) or (2)".
-if you wish to have the full picture on forum here, you copy the text/adress left of "Hotlink for forums (1) or (2)".
7. You paste it in to your post. Voila! You got the picture in your post!

I read the whole script and it rocks !!!
I almost fell of my chair reading the robot conversations.... roflmao!!!
I like the ending. And I think we shouln't have 9 dark riders, to much like lotr, but let's say less (like 5 - 8 ?) or more ( like 10 - 14 ?) I think less would be easyer to do offcourse.

startrekfan - your "model list" isn't good enough - it needs 10 times more models and stuff - I will make the much more detailed list of models needed when i get time (in next week maybe), but 4 now your small list will be suficent

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edit: hehe startekfan -seems we answered in the same time

I put in 9 on purpose to parody lotr, if you don't think we should, then i guess we can take it out. Then again, your name proclaims you to be an lotr nut...

I have my friend helping me develop the fight scene, we're coming up with some pretty cool ideas.

Do we have a horse yet? I think we should do like some people do and build a low-poly segmented "puppet" first, design the sequences for it, then export it as 3ds and model a skin over it. Then you have it more realistic, and you don't have to set up sequences with a highres model slowing down your comp... did i say that in understandable english? i dunno.

what is "roflmao" webspeak for? And that is an external smiley, right?

When do we get to hear some more music?

Not a bad list, though it doesn't have everything. You have characters under environment. Did it say someone did the king?

We are all running windows platforms, right?

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When do we get to hear some more music?
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The 9 riders - well if you ment it for direct parody of LOTR ... hehe -we can keep that too but let's see what other think.
**yelling in the distance** Hey others! What you think!?!?!
lotr nut... hehe thx 4 compliment

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"did i say that in understandable english? i dunno."

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"roflmao" is "Roling On the Floor Laughing My Ass Off" like this smiley

AFAIK, No one did any character yet.

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but it turns out I was just being melodramatic.

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You asked if that was external smiley... So here is my exact quote from the general forum:

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"well - as we all know this forum is kind of low on smileys... so 4 all of you who like to express them selfs by smileys I made this webpage http://vele-bit.hr/mario/smileys
Sugestions of more smileys are welcome!"

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Mr. Smeagol- Nice dog! I don't know a lot about dogs, so pick whatever kind you want to model. As for riding on the horse, I hadn't given it musch thought, but I figured Woof would sit on it like it was a chair, or perhaps ride in someone's backpack. But not straddling the horse, if that's what you're thinking.

As for the incomprhensible bit about horses-
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[*] Make a "puppet" of a horse. This consists of several low-poly segments. The segments are put on bones on the horse skeleton.
[*] build sequences for horse.
[*] export figure as 3ds. Import as an object and model the horse, using the segments as a guide both to the shape and where the bones are.
[*] remove low-poly segments and attach the horse model instead.
[*] spend several hours perfecting the skinning, and perhaps adding some morph targets for muscle movement.

Doing it this way helps you see what the horse can do, (by looking at the segments and how far they can bend before it looks painful) and also set up the sequences without the lag time caused by a hig-res, skinned, textured, transparent mesh. Got it? I got this idea from a commentary on The Two towers, that's something like they did to generate horses.

anim8ordude
P.S ianbnnt(i don't know ur forum name), keep creating music, that Dark Tower Somewhere RULED. And now you have PR_7's draft u can create even more .

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P.S ianbnnt(i don't know ur forum name), keep creating music, that Dark Tower Somewhere RULED. And now you have PR_7's draft u can create even more .

[This message has been edited by anim8ordude2005 (edited 01-30-2006).]

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Don't worry my friend, I'm still trying to create the music (at the moment I'm in the process of creating the music for when our man leaves the tower) I just think that it would help everyone if the creation strategy of the film was a little more solid and definite (such as one section at a time).

BTW - P_R7 I've been looking at the jingle and thought it might be fun having a robotic vocal line in a Rap/House styled piece. Yes I have a piece of software that talks and sings.

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" I got this idea from a commentary on The Two towers, that's something like they did to generate horses."

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And about Woof - Maybe we can make his anatomy like puss in shrek2 - then he could ride horse just like other caracters... what do you think?

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we should also on purpose have an accident with animating, and render it like that

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The horse idea was influenced heavily by the one clip where the horse gets thrown head over heels- and for some reason my stick figure animations are better than my other ones. Though admittedly I haven't done musch of either.

Music is usually done for a finished (or at least rendered) film. It's just that everyone here is getting impatient.

What do you mena, "Rap/Vocal Line"? As in a Vocoder effect, or the robot starts singing? I myself have a voice simulator (though it doesn't sing) and a vocoder which I was going to offer if no one else had them. But I guess it does make sense for a musician to have these tools. I was thinking having someone voice the lines, then alter it with a Vocoder so you can have inflection and pitch as well as a robo-voice.

Speaking of voices, does anyone have good-enough-quality-equipment and friends who can do the voices? And what accents do we have? Anyone with German, for Dr. Zhwigaroff? I have to test my own equipment, I think I have a pretty good soundcard, and I have a few mikes as well.

Typically I believe people create a working soundtrack before animation. We could be working on concept art, developing character ideas, etc. at the same time though. --hint--hint--

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Music is usually done for a finished (or at least rendered) film. It's just that everyone here is getting impatient.

What do you mena, "Rap/Vocal Line"? As in a Vocoder effect, or the robot starts singing? I myself have a voice simulator (though it doesn't sing) and a vocoder which I was going to offer if no one else had them. But I guess it does make sense for a musician to have these tools. I was thinking having someone voice the lines, then alter it with a Vocoder so you can have inflection and pitch as well as a robo-voice.

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Yes! As you say 'music is usually created for a finished or rendered film' of which is what i have tried pushing for (read my earlier posts regarding creating a section at a time) but as this is not an option and some (yourself included) are getting impatient to hear some more musical renditions then walking a dark alley of pic's and text files I have to guess at the music format required.

each step that is complete should be passed on to the next step so it can be used to complete the movie.....

I think working on one scene at a time would be the best way to see this thru..build one scene 100%...then save it ..move to the next scene complete it 100%....when all scene are complete combine them together to create the movie...that way everyone is working on one goal and that goal is meet..move to the next one....

break up the script into sections 1,2,3..etc....makes it faster and no one is left behind...

my .02 cents....its (IMOP)..and by no means am I trying to take this project over..I have been at this forum for along time and I have seen projects wither away...I would hate to see this one do the same.....

also,I have a small home recording studio..so music is no problem here...I have also worked on small movie clips for people here at .com and.org....one i worked on is called Blood....created/anim8ed by rufsketch1...voice over at the begining is me...and the rest is rufsketch1....

MP3D

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Originally posted by startrekfan002:
Hey listen guys, i love to work with you guys on this movie, but i've tried to go on with this while i'm on school, and it doesn't work. (homework) So i will only be able to work on models and be on the forum on friday, saturday and sunday. The castle is also not coming along very well.......

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We could make a hole in the back(top) of the horses(because they are mechanical) and in that hole place a seat.

i also came up withg other ides but they do not invole thismovie they invole another project(movie) i am working on.

u don't have to use my idea but i thought it could make for a kool addition to themovie and it would the solve the problem of how wolf is sitting on the horse.

Here are the dark tower interior WIP pics:

This is my first interior I ever made !
How do you like it so far? (don't forget, It's a WIP !)
I intend to put some furniture (or something like furniture) and some plants,... and some other stuff.
And I did a hell lot of uv-maping with & without uv-mapper... thx 4 texture pages links - they were helpfull, aldo I had to make some textures myself (consultant sign, stairs).
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edit: I had a problem opening some of the images i just posted (maybe it's just temporary imageshack problem). If you can't open it also - tell me and I'll link them to my private webspace.

2: mr.Smeagol, how long have you been working with Anim8or? On the looks i'd say you've been working your whole life making 3d models!!! This is just AMAZING on what kind of models you make! No doubt that you are one of the best modellers on this forum!

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Awesome though.

Anywho, i still don't hav a mike, but i haven't actually asked 4 another one yet so.....

any projects required i'll do my best.

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I don't think i'll get my work published in the film with anim8ors that good workin on it

Awesome though.

Anywho, i still don't hav a mike, but i haven't actually asked 4 another one yet so.....

any projects required i'll do my best.

anim8ordude

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How about creating some furniture for the castle such as wall hangings, candles, chandeliers, chairs and tables and the list could go on. Anything that doesn't get used in this film could be used in future films.
I have 8 mikes so I feel a bit guilty that I can't get one over to you 'Grrr' BUT then again if you email me direct and give me an idea of where you live I could see If can send one to you via snail mail (just an idea).

BTW Startrek fan I have managed to upload your latest castle and deleted the original from the group site.

Just a small hint here everyone. When uploading anim8or files to the group site, only upload the file and texture files used within that project. Upload any reference images to the Photo albumn section. Also reserve AVI files for finished animation sequences (film sections) only, create gif or jpeg files for reference animations (it keeps the upload smaller and saves room on the site. I am still searching for a host that will store our AVI files (Small and large) for free and keep them available for download (I will find one, one day)