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Figure Editor: Simultaneously Add, Lengthen, Rotate Bones
johnar:
Really nice. Really, really nice.
Over the moon right now, so pleased to see Anim8or reaching these new milestones.
I'm imagining this type of fast-select mode going on in the sequence editor ... lol....shivers down
me spine.....who could resist..
Massively awesome stuff steve. Wicked.
I'm all for the suggestions from neirao and raxx, regards default bone limits.
I got a bit carried away when first trying 1170, and whipped up a 12 legged blob with total 140
bones. Didnt take long with the new 'quick draw'.
But, giving each bone a value of movement did take quite some time...lol
A default of free all bones would be 1 answer, but then of course, all bones with no limits is not always a good thing.
I'm wondering, and hopeing not to confuse the issue, but could something like the image below be an option?
Edit. After a closer look, the command 'apply to all' and 'apply to selected', would probably need to ignore the Orientation (PYR) settings...
Another Edit: Not so well arranged in the picture i posted. If something like this could be implemented, the 2 new boxes/options would want to be placed directly under the x,y and z value boxes, to show more clearly that the only thing being applied to other bones is the rotation limits.
(or maybe it should say, ''apply limits to selected bones'', and 'apply limits to all bones"
Steve:
nemyax: OK I've experimented a bit with using the Shift key in Add Bones mode so you can orient/scale bones by click-dragging on their tips. It works fairly well so I'll include it in the next drop.
I don't know how distinguish between the start of a bone and the tip of it's parent though.
johnar and others: Yes, this is a nice idea. I'll look into ways to add it.
neirao:
cool,
time ago i create and posted this Tool for download:
http://www.anim8or.com/smf/index.php?topic=2921.0
and send this:
only for refresh(and ispiration) 8), my full ideas list here, somethigs Steve has implemented!
http://www.anim8or.com/smf/index.php?topic=1313.0
but is better inside Anim8or. :)
Raxx:
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A default of free all bones would be 1 answer, but then of course, all bones with no limits is not always a good thing.
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I've done my fair share of animating in other programs, and I've never, ever, used bone limits nor felt the need for it, even with character rigs. Heck, I'd even forgotten there was the option until I'd try a test rig in Anim8or and go through the grueling neverending ticking of boxes. It's true that most everything in real life has a range of motion, but when animating it's more about what looks right. Beyond anything, the simple freedom of being able to transform a bone exactly where I want it with simple clicking and dragging, I believe, should take priority. <--guess I went on a tangent there
Regarding your image, johnar, this is where a properties side panel would be spectacular, where you just select the bones and change the values and it applies to all of the selected ones. Absolute reliance on dialog boxes to change common properties are pretty disruptive of the workflow. I think I remember Steve was working on or planning to work on UI changes...I hope we can start getting away from the dialog boxes if he does.
Steve:
Property Panels: I would very much like to replace dialogs with property panels. It will definitely happen. It's a massive amount of code to rewrite, maybe 3-6 months worth. I think it's more important to work on all the editing tool changes first, (and maybe even add sound and IK, too!) before I tackle property panels.
Joint Limits: I'll make the default "no limits" as many have suggested. I may add user-specified toggle for this, or full blown user settings for the default, or something like that, depending on everyone's comments after the change.
Note: joint limits can improve IK's realism as characters can tend to look like rag dolls with unrestricted joints.
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