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Nellucnaiv:
Hi all,
I am in the process of making an animated bee. Everything is going very well except for the wing beating. In real life they get up to 250 flaps per second. Using one frame up, one frame down it looks like the wings are vibrating in a fixed pattern looking like they're both up and down. I have a nice veined wing pattern and am using diffuse and transparent texture which looks very realistic. Impossible to cram 250 frames into 25 frames per second. I tried doing 800 frames and then speeding it up 8x in my editor but it still doesn't look right.
Does Anim8or have a motion blur setting or does anyone have any advice on how I can go about this?

Thanks in advance!
Ian

Nellucnaiv:
Me again! :)
I've found motion blurring in my editor works well but then the whole bee shakes too :)
Is there a way of using motion blur on the wins only in the editor and adding the bee and surroundings afterwards using the alpha channel maybe?
Just a thought.
Really appreciate any help or advice.
Thanks again

thecolclough:
two things...

1) have you tried applying motion blur to the texture rather than the render?  it's a bit of a bodge, and you might need to swap between two different versions of your bee model (one with normal wings and one with blurred) depending whether it's still or in flight, but it might be worth a shot.

2) don't know if you're already doing this, but maybe try rotating the wings as well as moving up and down - the first result on this search page illustrates the pattern: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1278&bih=1296&ei=uVnvW9mHBcWMsAHR_4LQDQ&q=bee+wing+movement&oq=bee+wing+move&gs_l=img.3.0.0.1467.7055..8240...7.0..0.152.1534.18j3......2....1..gws-wiz-img.....0..0i8i30.RzCR3fsiobA#imgrc=klxSo2k6dMXcAM:

Nellucnaiv:
Hi thecolclough,

Thanks a lot for taking the time to respond! I have tried using morphing on the wings both up and down in conjunction with simple up and down bone movements but this looks like something that could work well!

Never thought about motion blur on the texture so I'll give that a try!
And thanks for the link, the rotation will probably do it...just got to try and get it right!

Thanks again!
Ian

thecolclough:
you're welcome =]
i'll look forward to seeing the finished article!

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