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Artwork => Finished Works and Works in Progress => Topic started by: $imon on March 26, 2010, 05:52:16 am

Title: UPDATE! - TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: $imon on March 26, 2010, 05:52:16 am
Latest Update:

(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/3025/cartunnel.jpg)



Hey Guys! Long time since I posted a project.. here is the reason why;

I've been modeling an Audi TT, my favorite road car. I'm usually not a big fan of modeling cars in 3d, but I wanted to try to push anim8or to the limit with a model/render, and thought a car would be the way to go with the features available in anim8or at this moment in time.

I'll start off by posting the final image.
It doesnt have fresnel reflections since the car paint come straight out of anim8or.

(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8418/audittfinal.jpg)

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8562/audiback.jpg)

Here is a clay render

(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7696/claywm.jpg)

Rendered in Art in about 10 different renders, layered together in photoshop.

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9956/layers.jpg)

I've combined the layers in such a way in photoshop that I can change the color of the car quite easily, with a solid color or a combination of colors, like this yellow and orange paint job:
This has a fresnel reflection

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6205/yelloworange.jpg)

Here are a few shots of the model inside anim8or:

(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7042/anim8orview.jpg)

For who is interested, I kept track of all the render times, it totaled at almost 100 hours.


I'm thinking about making a little video about the model, I can't make it in full color/shading of course, with 100 hours/frame. I'll have to figure something out if i want to do that..

Any comments are welcome! Hope you enjoy it.
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: $imon on March 26, 2010, 05:54:03 am
OH, btw, here is a detail shot of the brake dish.. I might make some more detail renders later on, render times are a bit slow so it can take a while.

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5166/brakesw.jpg)
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: Olias on March 26, 2010, 06:03:29 am
O.O

That is INCREDIBLE work, really top-notch. :)
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: hihosilver on March 26, 2010, 11:22:05 am
 :o
Sweet jesus $imon.  I was convinced that was your reference at first then I read your post.  Honestly, especially with Anim8or... brilliant job mate.  Simply brilliant.  You've definitely just set another limit people can aspire to in Anim8or.  Truly amazing stuff.
My jaw is dropped.
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: Josmic8or on March 26, 2010, 12:17:35 pm
Wow!!! :o :o
That car is hottt!
Any 3d artist out there would definitely give that a 10 out of 10!!!
Hey I'm also not a big fan of modeling 3d cars but it's like u said u gotta push anim8or to the limits! :)



Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: Kubajzz on March 26, 2010, 12:22:59 pm
Awesome stuff! 15 stars out of 10, that's all I can say.
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: RudySchneider on March 26, 2010, 03:03:00 pm
Awesome job, $imon!  Just goes to show ya that anything's possible given enough time and patience.
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: baxter on March 26, 2010, 05:01:57 pm
Wow, I'm speechless! This has to be one of the greatest things I've ever seen made in anim8or, wow, just wow.
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: davdud101 on March 26, 2010, 05:02:08 pm
:[      ] woah. I'm speechless... it looks real/professional. you should send this to Audi just to see what they do.
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: cooldude234 on March 26, 2010, 06:01:51 pm
I LOVE IT, can I marry your car?

Just as a question, how did you get the edges so perfect, when I make my vehicles, I always end up making somthing a little bumpy? If you know what I mean
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: $imon on March 26, 2010, 06:49:33 pm
Wow thanks guys for the great responses. I'm glad you all liked it!

davdud: I'm afraid they wouldn't be impressed at Audi .. I will have to improve quite a bit for that to happen.

cooldude; Mostly it is experience with smooth surface modeling, a hint i can give you is this: I poly-model everything, I start with lining out a large segment (say draw a line from one side of the hood to the other side, then cut it in half, adjust that poly to the angle it should be, then refine further. So start with the rougher shape and smooth it out from there.
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: davdud101 on March 26, 2010, 09:31:58 pm
but this...is so perfect... I mean, it looks real.
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: rellik420 on March 27, 2010, 04:27:03 am
yea ur a badass.

but i think if we wanna get technical you have some triangles there.

but whats good is good. (thats what i say anyway)

so did u tetxure it all, or is that in post production? u mentioned u figured out an easy way to change the car color on the fly. + u said u had 10 different renders. either i have alot to learn or im doing it wrong cause u make everything look so much better.

anyway great job on the model. the onlything ic as an easy fix is by the windows. theres way 2 much going on by the tires and the break pads for me 2 even look at it. great job.
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on March 27, 2010, 04:32:31 am
:o
Sweet jesus $imon.  I was convinced that was your reference at first then I read your post.  Honestly, especially with Anim8or... brilliant job mate.  Simply brilliant.  You've definitely just set another limit people can aspire to in Anim8or.  Truly amazing stuff.
My jaw is dropped.

This is exactly what I would have said.

Truly amazing work, $imon! :D  I don't think anyone will top that for a while. Have you sent it to Steve for the gallery?
Keep it up, I've always been a fan of your work.
3DGeek
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: $imon on March 27, 2010, 04:37:48 am
davdud; haha tnx.. it can still get more realistic though! (something I admire: http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=132&t=749021 )

Heh thanks rellik..

Triangles... On the whole car there is a total of 4 triangles (except the headlights or windows, which arent subdivided), all placed there by lack of alternative ;) If it is correct they dont effect the flow of the model.

I had to render it in several passes (the whole car without shadow, and a pass with only shadows) for the sake of render times. In photoshop I can change the color that goes beneeth the shadow/reflection layer, which essentially changes the color of the car.

Thanks 3Dgeek! The gallery would be an honor I think one should be invited to ;)
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: Mills on March 27, 2010, 07:00:29 am
$imon, I don't agree with your taste in cars and I especially don't agree with your taste in colour of cars, but that's truely exceptional work as always. Well done, really nice job.
Don't be waiting for an invitation to send this to the gallery as it really doesn't work that way - or consider this an invitation from the community if that helps!
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: $imon on March 27, 2010, 07:57:37 am
Mills; thanks for the compliment.. I can understand that someone might not like that car, but thats totally up to them.. don't worry. (I would never have a yellow car though- if that is what you are referring to, haha.. It was just an illustration)

The thing is there are already two images in the gallery of which I am very proud so I don't think there is a need to overrepresent my work in there ;)
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: davdud101 on March 27, 2010, 09:09:19 am
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=132&t=749021
{my mouth will now no loner open.}
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on March 27, 2010, 02:39:11 pm
I actually like that car, and the yellow version of it.

Although, I fell in love with a car I used to see at a store. It was pink, and was white inside, and I just loved it. Didn't know anything about cars back then, so I have no idea what it was, but it looked sort of like $imon's car.

Also, to compliment $imon once more, I love that avatar you have. Never knew where it was from until I looked back at the Wonderland challenge. :P
3DGeek
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: hihosilver on March 27, 2010, 06:05:22 pm
Rellik:  A quick note on triangles for you.  Though I'm sure you've heard a lot of things (never use triangles, etc.), triangles are really perfectly acceptable.  In the art of 3D the real rule is "whatever works and whatever looks good."  For a car model in particular, triangles will not make much of a difference as long as there are no deformations in the mesh because of the triangle.  With organic models on the other hand, people avoid triangles.  The reason for this is that they don't deform as well as quads, and when you animate an organic model joints tend to bend, and if triangles are involved you can get bad deformations when animating which nobody wants because it doesn't look good!  Then on the other hand (to confuse you more!) in games you use nothing but triangles.  Many people model in quadrilaterals (many times to help with high poly models to create normal maps), but ultimately the model will always be converted into ALL triangles.  That's just how videogames work!  Triangles are the simples to render.  Therefore you have to make it in such a way that the model doesn't deform when animated (though this is a bit easier as the models aren't subdivision meshes.)
I hope that helps the subject a bit for you!

$imon:  Still man, damn!  You've been keeping this piece of beauty a secret from us just to make us wet ourselves haha, well done.  I'd love to see those detail shots (and maybe a shot of the back of the car as well?)  Truly brilliant mate.
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: MeepII on March 28, 2010, 06:39:32 am
This makes me sad...

Heh, how do you get SO much detail?
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: floyd86 on March 28, 2010, 07:36:31 am
simon, suprising as always! Again a brilliant piece of work. It's indeed more of an honour to get invited for the gallery, but consider this one worthy! goed werk! ;)
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: ENSONIQ5 on March 28, 2010, 09:21:13 am
Once again $imon, an absolutely brilliant piece of work.  This is testament to what can be achieved through patience, skill and a supreme attention to detail.  There are no shortcuts to creating something of this calibre, just an unwillingness to accept anything other than perfection.  Well done mate!
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: $imon on March 29, 2010, 12:11:49 pm
davdud: impressive, isnt it ;)

3dgeek; I'm glad not everyone thinks its hideous haha.. Cars really are subject to taste a lot, so one cant do anything but to follow his own taste ;)
Glad you like my caterpillar! Was fun to make.

hihosilver; Thanks for giving the whole triangle-speech ;) It's a tough issue for a lot of people to comprehend.
Sorry I kept it under the radar, I know that once I start showing something, I won't finish it!
I'm working on a shot from the back now, so thats on its way.. The detail shots might be coming after that! So stay tuned.

Meep; I hope I didnt make you sad! :( The amount of detail is not thát high... but I set a bar for myself and modeled every single piece until I had the same amount of detail on the rest (bolts, beveled edges, smooth surfaces)

Floyd; dankje.. I'll look into the gallery thing.. Maybe when I have all the renders done!

Ensoniq; thanks for the compliments! means a lot coming from you! Hard work and patience indeed.. now if I only had talent ;)
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: $imon on March 30, 2010, 03:37:42 am
Alright the render of the back of the car is done;


(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8562/audiback.jpg)
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: rellik420 on March 30, 2010, 03:49:07 am
it pretty much perfect. the only thing i see wrong is some spots look jumpy. almost like u dont have anti analisis on. especially under the rear window i see the inconcistany. thats most likely the renderer. it might even be the jpeg format.  but what ever it is it needs fixed.

unless u can get the pic like its from a regular camera ( im sure if any1 you can) you can fix it with a photo editing program. those wavy lines just ruin it for me. its like 99.9% near perfection.
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: $imon on March 30, 2010, 03:59:02 am
those wavy lines just ruin it for me.

That sounds very dramatic hahaha... the aliased edges are because of the composition out of multiple layers in photoshop. Using an alphamap from anim8or to combine layers in photoshop never fits perfectly. On the edges of surfaces the AA shows. The only way to fix this is if I would go into photoshop and manually erase tiny bits of the sides of the alpha maps... which will take Very long haha.. I don't really feel like doing it, but I can see where you come from.

Ill look to see if there is a way around doing that.

edit: I went past the edges with a slight blur in photoshop (a little bit cheating) and I uploaded the new picture.. hope its better
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: neirao on March 30, 2010, 10:45:54 am
Amazing work!!
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: daniel99 on March 30, 2010, 04:29:37 pm
Perfect  ;) Let's show the world what is Anim8or capable of ! \m/
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: Tof on March 30, 2010, 04:45:06 pm
Congratulations $imon and thank you that you show us the way to follow! Your amazing works give me inspiration and make me go forward 8)
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: Mreenav D on April 02, 2010, 02:19:43 am
car render of the year
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: headwax on April 08, 2010, 02:51:19 am
Ha? Wow this is phenomenal. Did your girl go away for a year?

I think you are in the wrong job :)

But seriously (looks in dictionary). Superb, wonderful, sleek and definitely a pro job.


We all hate you $imon. :) :)
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: $imon on April 08, 2010, 07:19:37 am
Heh thanks guys!!

kreator; there doesn't seem to be much attention to anim8or on there...

headwax; My girl is not here, thats true haha.. otherwise i would never get anything done ;) Fortunately theres skype.
Thanks for your hatred! Well received.

I'm going to make a render in a bit of an environment; a tunnel. Heres a WIP on what I'm working on, no need to comment since most of the image is under construction. Ideas are very welcome though!

Greetings

(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2176/wipr.jpg)
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: Arik_the_Red on April 08, 2010, 09:46:42 am
Simon, been eyeballing this thread... not sure how I missed it... but like everyone else, I just can't say anything except things like "WOW! PHENOMENAL!"  If this doesn't rate worthy of hte anim8or gallery, nothing does!
Title: Re: Audi TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: $imon on April 12, 2010, 03:34:24 pm
Heh thanks so much, buddy! Maybe you'll like this update too.

It's finally done rendering for this scene.. So here's what I came up with;

(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/3025/cartunnel.jpg)
Title: Re: UPDATE! - TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: neirao on April 12, 2010, 06:44:27 pm
Amazing render!
Title: Re: UPDATE! - TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: $imon on April 14, 2010, 05:43:04 am
Thanks neirao ;) :D
Title: Re: UPDATE! - TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: floyd86 on April 14, 2010, 07:44:48 am
Really an amazing render simon. A masterpiece!
Title: Re: UPDATE! - TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: DragonSlayer on April 14, 2010, 09:27:34 am
I'd like to know how to view the attachments... I can't seem to look at them unless they are shone in message... :( I'd like to see the picture.
Title: Re: UPDATE! - TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: $imon on April 14, 2010, 10:06:26 am
Thanks so much Floyd!

Hm, that is weird, DragonSlayer.. I uploaded these images to imageshack, maybe you can't view them for some reason. I will attach the image to this message, maybe you can see it than.
Title: Re: UPDATE! - TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: DragonSlayer on April 14, 2010, 11:12:45 am
I'm on a school computer, and all the image searches are blocked... even Google Images. That's what happens when kids look at things they shouldn't, they ruin it for everyone.

HOLY COW $imon, that car is amazing! I don't get the previous complaints on the 4 triangles you have. IT LOOKS GREAT. Something interesting you could do though, if you wanted to make it look 3D to the user, render a left and right camera picture to scale as if they are eyes (stereo doesn't work well), aim them at the same spot with a target. Take the two renders, put the right on the left and the left on the right, and then the onlooker crosses their eyes to get a perfect 3rd center image. THEN YOU COULD DRIVE IT OFF!!!!!!! (Though it looks like you could all ready!!!) ;)
Title: Re: UPDATE! - TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: $imon on April 14, 2010, 11:53:22 am
I'm glad you could see it now, DragonSlayer.. I hope you get the chance to see the other images in here as well..

Here is a quick stereo view.. it is a fun effect.. not sure about an animation though haha!
Title: Re: UPDATE! - TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: DragonSlayer on April 14, 2010, 12:22:36 pm
I CAN'T REACH THE DOOR!!! ;D
Title: Re: UPDATE! - TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: Olias on April 15, 2010, 03:38:01 pm
Incredible work, the tunnel scene is beautiful.
Title: Re: UPDATE! - TT Car Model (large images)
Post by: SandwitchPL on April 21, 2010, 12:33:50 pm
How do you created soo cool lights ?