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I was in the process of making a lighting tutorial for PerfectGold when I wanted some comparison shots from An8.
Ive mentioned in the past about ART needing Diffuse Inter-Reflection and ToneMapper but I simulated it with Glossyreflector.

My material settings are crazy
Ambient 0
Diffuse 20 + texture
Specular 0.95 + Texture
Roughness 0

Setting specular to 1 means diffuse doesn't work

Scene Lighting set to 1 for exterior, 4 for interior

Im quite sure these would be much better (not to mention easier to set up) if an8 suported it as a checkbox
Also note that Ambient Occlude is NOT on, AmbOcc is a simplified DIR.

The results

I don't know that we necessarily need 2 separate tools, The New UI should replace the old UI but the back code of the new one needs brought "up to classic spec".

Being able to do everything with 1 mouse button / finger is great and the new UI (with addition of the 2 sliders I suggested in previous post) accomplishes this, I just think that having a mouse should allow the "old" behavior if you press right or middle buttons.
Also the rotational problem needs fixing, or made optional. (PerfectGold recently changed its rotations to similar to an8's "classic" and Subdrag called it "First Person Shooter Style" as against "Flight Sim Style". Since Arc-Rotate is more like looking down on a table you could call it "Table Top Style" and the odd - though technically correct fixed axis rotation - "Orbit Style")

Trev

The only problem with all the effect hacks is that they are nearly all incompatible with ART.

As stated above, ART casts 100% shadows of any mesh regardless of transparency.

My advice would be before doing any hack, get the scene rendering properly.

ART takes the longest of all the renderers, the fastest is OpenGL which is the same as the workspace. Scanline is second fastest.

ART works best with AA on and the more samples the longer it takes.

Trev

yeah, it will only do connected verticies.

there are times when this is desirable, but others like this one where they are not.
Same goes for rotation, sometimes rotating a group of verticies about a common center is good, othertimes it would be better to rotate round model center (the draggable one... pivot point I think its called)

Trev

I am one of those "Old Colour" users as I find the new one odd, I'm just used to seeing an8 in blue.

Yes, lets change PEF to VEF, that should alleviate some confusion around "point" and "Vertex" (Gyperboloid: the Plural of Vertex is Vertices although I too have been know to use the incorrect Vertexes before)

Agreed on Steve's point2

Trev

To be honest, it took me a while to work that one out too.

Trev

heh, I wish Steve would make that optional, a few builds ago it was screen zoom rather than cursor zoom and I preferred that, now when I zoom it veers off to a side which is annoying when I'm lined up to a specific grid point.

Trev

yup! still waiting for copy an paste objects in scene mode without having to manually add things!

hahaha, just noticed you re-posted this here.
I added this to the dev forum since I think that forum would be more appropriate for requests otherwise there would be no definition between the forums - that is unless a mod or Steve objects and considers the dev forum closed (pre-v1)?

There were a few things that never made V1, but Steve did say he was stabilising V1 for Release rather than adding new features.

for a 1.1 though I still say we need
Copy/Paste Scene elements
Toggle ALL shadows in scanline (I hate having to enable shadows for everything)
what thecolclough said about shadow opacity (2% trans = 2% shadow + tint (diffuse colour of object casting shadow))
Multi-threaded Render (break the image into small segments, single core CPU wont be any faster though it may look it, but multi-core CPU will be MANY times FASTER)
HDR images + Tonemapper (this is probably the hardest request and might be v1.2)


Bug report time,
Win 10 16251
Clicking render works once, after that clicking render again the render controls appear but the image options window does not.
Click close and the menu bar becomes active but the rest of the screen stays in render mode
Click render again and all is well, image options show and render starts.
click close and window returns to object/scene mode.

Trev