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Author Topic: Challenge #35: Talent Show  (Read 905 times)

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Re: Re: Challenge suggestions.
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2020, 07:10:37 pm »

... so I was thinking of doing a "season" or "mini series" or maybe an anthology series to pass the time. I still playing around with the "Some Guy in Space," and itching to get some vocal talent to do some voice over work. Maybe collaborate with other Anim8or enthusiasts to make the series or whatever better.

must admit, i find 'Some Guy' has a certain air of mystery about it, and i've been kinda wishing it had a bit of dialogue to help explain why he's doing what he's doing.

personally, i started off making things with no dialogue (mostly because i had no clue how to write, perform or record it to be honest!), but i've gradually got the hang of it over the years.  i sometimes find a certain project works fine without any, but on the whole it's a very useful tool.

but i can say from experience that it's a challenging but also very rewarding process putting together an episodic series.  if you want to give it a shot then let us know what aspects you'd like a hand with, and i'd be happy to chip in if any of my skillset is relevant :)
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Re: Re: Challenge suggestions.
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2020, 08:05:23 pm »

That would be awesome.

I've been toying around with a screenplay, but keep going back and rewriting it. It's actually part of a writing project I've been working on. I have a website for it, but the server was recently hacked and stupid me, I didn't back things up. Luckily, all the original content was on my google drive. But, that means I have to repost everything. Ah well.
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Re: Re: Challenge suggestions.
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2020, 08:55:15 am »

I guess most of the help I'd need is rigging and sequencing. Some form of particle effects (at least mimicking) would be helpful too. I am no where near being proficient with the lip synching. And any improvements or suggestions on models would be great too. I'd like it to be a collaborative project. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but that would be my ideal scenario.
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Re: Re: Challenge suggestions.
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2020, 05:50:28 am »

How I though it might work is that there is one common shot of the curtain opening in front of a stage after showing the name of the next performer or performers, with the act on the stage. Then each contributor makes a scene with whatever act they want on the stage. Each act ends with the curtain closing, probably with applause :), and the title of the next act comes on, on is on a placard, etc.

So to do this we first need the common stage, curtain, lighting and such. At least the layout. Then everyone can start thinking about their act.

Note: the stage setting can be completely different. In fact it doesn't even need to be a proper stage. When the curtain opens we can show anything, outer space, the beach, interiors of buildings. You get the idea.

How does that sound?
Still sounds good ,I hope i have improved the stage with a texture. I think we probably need to agree a size perhaps then the curtain can be made to fit. Also maybe a Robin logo at the centre of the top curtain.
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Re: Re: Challenge suggestions.
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2020, 06:56:27 am »

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Still sounds good ,I hope i have improved the stage with a texture. I think we probably need to agree a size perhaps then the curtain can be made to fit. Also maybe a Robin logo at the centre of the top curtain.

 I like 640x360 as a size.
 The curtains are looking good. I think the top curtain might need to lift away as each show begins, so the 'act' has use of the full screen.
 Maybe you could put one big robin logo on the main curtains, which lines up at the join when curtains are closed, and breaks in half as curtains open?
 Maybe a circle background on robin logo, make it look more like a 'logo'.  ;)

bayinghound A huge job, sorry i wouldn't have the time to be much help.
 I do hope we get a few entries into a talent show tho. Making a 10 - 20 second(?) short clip can be hours of work in itself....


 
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Re: Re: Challenge suggestions.
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2020, 08:23:57 am »

I guess most of the help I'd need is rigging and sequencing. Some form of particle effects (at least mimicking) would be helpful too. I am no where near being proficient with the lip synching. And any improvements or suggestions on models would be great too. I'd like it to be a collaborative project. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but that would be my ideal scenario.

I've been involved in a zero-budget collaboration for some years now, and from a CGI artist's perspective the most critical things are a story/script and a visual storyboard.  As you would be aware, developing 3D imagery is VERY time consuming, any artists wanting to get on board with a project will need to know that the work they are doing is "right" and they're not wasting time designing, building, rigging, animating and rendering assets that don't fit the story and won't ultimately be used.  In my case the writer/director provides descriptive but relatively low-detail storyboards, or searches the web for images that have the right kind of feel for what he needs.  Without these I would have left the project a long time ago.

Putting together a 'development team' to throw around ideas and build concepts into a script and storyboard would also be worthwhile.  As a real-world example, the author of The Martian book (and movie) crowd-sourced a lot of the science in the story, since he wasn't particularly science-literate.

As johnar says, and as I can attest from experience, it is a huge job driving a collaborative project of this sort.  You are likely to have artists drop in and out of the project so you will want to have a central location for assets (we use a Google drive extended to 100GB) to ensure you don't lose anything.  I have seen great projects crash and burn due to a single participant going AWOL and taking their models with them.

I am over-committed with projects at the moment and wouldn't be able to assist in any direct way, but if you are really keen to do this (and you will need to be really keen) I encourage you to do it.  It can be fun, inspiring and rewarding, however you need to remember that there is nothing in it for anybody in any real sense, other than a sense of achievement, seeing your name in the credits and, if you're lucky, maybe picking up a couple of awards here and there.  The more work you can do up-front with the story and storyboard the more likely you will be to attract and keep artists in the project.

With nothing but sincerity I wish you well and I hope it does happen, it's been a while since I've seen a collaborative project based on Anim8or and with recent developments to the platform I think it's long overdue.
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Re: Re: Challenge suggestions.
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2020, 09:28:29 am »

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I like 640x360 as a size.
 The curtains are looking good. I think the top curtain might need to lift away as each show begins, so the 'act' has use of the full screen.
 Maybe you could put one big robin logo on the main curtains, which lines up at the join when curtains are closed, and breaks in half as curtains open?
 Maybe a circle background on robin logo, make it look more like a 'logo'.  ;)
Ha hah ha Yes my slow mind had moved on to the mechanics of moving smoothly into the film beyond the curtains opening.Once the curtains open, zooming into the title being one shot and that frame being the start of someones film, Was what i was mulling over.
And another amusing part Jonah Ha hah ha....Bet someone is going to suggest the logo in a circle on the main curtains. but that hurts my brain so i will just suggest putting a robin on the top. ha ha....Yes Robin on main curtain with an animated swish and rest would be best. ;)

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Re: Re: Challenge suggestions.
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2020, 04:25:46 pm »

In an ideal world, it might work. I have a more forgiving schedule. I usually jump on anim8or while I have my first cup of coffee, then it's off to work and then I come home and dabble a little bit on Anim8or. I've learned so much from everyone's critique and I truly appreciate it. Won't stop me from attempting a short series. :)

I do have a few drafts of scripts and at some point I'll finish something that isn't a test episode.
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Re: Re: Challenge suggestions.
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2020, 04:26:59 pm »

And if you are even slightly entertained, then I've done my job.
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Re: Re: Challenge suggestions.
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2020, 11:24:08 pm »

Holding my head in shame  :-\.I cant do any better than this :o .Couldnt work out how to get the logo on the curtains and cant get the logo in the shot ,so its all rather clumsy. So if someone can do better, please have a bash at it. ;) 8) :)
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Re: Re: Challenge suggestions.
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2020, 01:59:01 pm »

A quick render with logo...
I wish not to piss of @Steve by redesigning the logo...
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Challenge #35: Talent Show
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2020, 03:10:29 pm »

I've split the main topic to form Challenge #35: Talent Show.
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Re: Challenge #35: Talent Show
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2020, 03:15:38 pm »

Kevin Gales: Nice curtains. The logo loos really good :) But feel free to try anything that you like, as long as it doesn't harm Robin, the Anim8or mascot :)
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Re: Challenge #35: Talent Show
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2020, 03:43:39 pm »

Cool... 8)
I have included the curtain source with the logo and sample bump map which can be used to give the curtain a feel...
feel free to modify  :) ...
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Re: Challenge #35: Talent Show
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2020, 06:54:24 am »

So what size shall we agree on? Jonah has suggested 640 X 360?
16 x 9  4 x 3. ?
 :-[crimson with embarrassment!! Just realised there were no textures in the files i posted :-\,i do apologise.
it's a tough job being the community clown :(.
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